RATS - In the coop

I started having a rat problem a few months back. First they ate all of my heirloom tomatoes.
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I put out traps and would get a couple but down here in Florida they are fruit rats and they are EVERYWHERE. Then they moved to the chicken coop and duck run. I used to leave food out all the time and it wasn't a problem. I think after they destroyed my veggie garden they moved on to the coop. Just recently, about 1 month ago, I started seeing them more often. I had some ducklings outside so had to leave some food out until they were old enough. Then I started picking the food up at dusk. The rats started showing up earlier and earlier. Nothing worse than going outside at 630pm and having 3 rats run toward you. Eeek (not the expelative I used)
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I was told to try using bobcat urine to deter them. Bought some on ebay. Didn't seem to work but its the rainy season now and rains daily. So, I decided to use poison. I was very leary, I have dogs and don't want to kill anything unintentionally.
I spoke with the sales person and ended up purchasing just on bite blocks. They have a hole through them so that you can tie them to things. I used a wire clothes hanger and attached it to an outside ledge on the duck run. I also put pieces in some holes in the trees out back. It was suppossed to take about 5 days to work, they say that rats will sample first and if they don't die come back and gorge. Starting the night of putting the bait out, I have seen less and less rats. There were nights that I would shine a light outside and see 6-8.
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Well, yesterday one of my dogs was out back and was acting weird so I went to check and he was nudging a rat on the ground. The rat was still alive but obviously in a bad way. I covered it with a flower pot and went back later and it was dead. This morning, I went to let the chickens out and just inside the chicken door, were 2 rats hiding behind the waterer. The chickens could see them but were more interested in getting out to get fed than anything else. I ended up covering 1 up but the other ran away. I came upon it later in the duck run near where the poison was. I put a flower pot under it and used a piece of pvc to basically knock it like a pool ball off the ledge into the put. Then I covered it up.

It is obvious that MY chickens are not interested in a barely moving rat. They did take off after the one that ran but lost it quickly. I can't bring myself to kill them with a shovel etc. I am hoping that most of them are dying in their dens.

It is a hard decision but I did not feel that I had any options. My runs are open air because of the heat here. I can't imagine the cost of covering a 15X10X6' run with hardware cloth. Every morning, I survey the yard to see if there are any dead or dying rats.
 
I think rodents are better prevented than treated. 1/2" hardware cloth all around keeps them out. If they can't get to the food and shelter, they have no reason to stick around. It isn't cheap and it is time intensive to set it up (a 100 ft. roll of 4 ft. wide 1/2 hardware cloth cost me about $120, and it took my DH and I two days to install- one day for the walls and one day for the roof) . But once it's done, it's done forever. I'm a big fan of short-term suffering for long-term gain rather than the chronic stuff you have to deal with over and over.
 
I love my rat-zapper. Every couple of weeks, I'll get several rats in a week and then none for another week or two. The rats are not getting in my coop or main run as they are enclosed in hardware cloth, but they do go after the chicken poop and vegetable scraps I toss on the lawn for them. My birds free-range all day, so the poop is everywhere! I also have barn cats, but their kill rate is not as good as the zapper.
 
I thought I had it pretty secure. Most of the coop is wood but where I have an opening, i.e. windows and vents, I put 1/2" hardware cloth. Rats are slippery like creatures. They can squeeze in the tiniest holes. I couldn't figure out where they were getting in then I saw one leaving on top of a rafter and out the roof where the metal roofing rib is. I'm not sure how to handle that. There's literally 50 of yhose humps. I thought about spray foam but a friend told me the rats ate that at his hunting camp.
 
The steel wool? Can you stuff this into visible rat holes? We just started having rats and our coops are fenced in and they are digging tunnels underneath. Most likely because we killed out all the snakes and the local cats stay away... They are not getting our chicks as we havent had any this year but they are killing our chickens!! We have started closing up all our feed and done everything but closed our coops at night. We like giving our chickens freedom to come in/out of the coop to the run without having to close it up and open it every am and pm. They tend to harrass my silkies more Im not sure why. We too were afraid of the poison and our neighbors animals BUT they wont go in the traps we have set up so we only have the posion option left I guess...unless we can stuff the steel wool around. I have lots of SOS pads that I can tear up to defer if anyone knows if this might help at all? What about the smell of cat like getting some cat hair maybe? or cat urine ? But then again when it rains it would all go away....sigh... We also have a fox too and its getting depressing trying to keep all these predators from our flock. Last year we had no problems whatsoever!! We have traps everywhere around the coop, at the edge of the woods, inside the coops (which the chickens keep setting off so we will have to build a box around it to leave one inside it so no nosey pecking hens will get it. Poison seems to be working the best from what I have read but I would rather see what I am getting rid of ! Rather than just oh it died in its tunnel!
 

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