this is true i guess i was wrong of somewhat i'll try removing the hiding spots first
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X 2!I check traps daily when the mice are running and keep an eye on them at other times because I dont want a glue soaked rat making a mess, or worse a bloated dead one oozing all over.
Put them in a way where you will notice a change in position. Never fails and I havent had a rat go unoticed on a trap for more than 2 days.
Not sure what you mean by giving them an edge on something.
I've seen a large number of rats on a glue trap, never seen one chew a limb, ever. Even seen one that just had its tail stuck on. It wouldnt even chew that off to escape. Never seen torn skin, or anything but pulled out fur. Even the really weak skin on the tail didnt break. Not sure where any of that grizzly info comes from.
Every one that met with the "rat log" in my place hadnt spread any more urine than it would normally just scampering around. More poop though, and everything was right on the trap where it belonged. They didnt look crazy, hadnt done anything grizzly, the only one that ever came close to escaping was the one who decided to chew the trap. Ended up with a moutfull of glue, but did a good job getting halfway free by the morning.
Honestly I dont care if people finish off the animal or not.
If they have a beef with the rodent and want to torture it, thats between them and the rat.
Their karma, not mine.
Its better to kill them before they go in the bin as it can get free, or mess up the bin. Most importantly no sanatation worker wants the off chance of a rat bite coming at them when the bag bumps a leg or arm.
You can try to defend rats all you want, but they dont belong.
If you made the adjustments to the location and they come back again, kill them and dont give it a second thought.
I respect life, but when it doesnt respect back it gets removed.
The info comes from here, here and here. As well as with various anecdotes on the internet. I have also seen glue traps with limbs left behind from those used at work, because they leave it overnight and no one is there until the morning. That's several hours.
Just because you haven't seen it happen doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
I'm not defending rats, I am criticising the use of glue traps. They're abhorrent.
You asked for proof about that grizzly info, and that includes the animal maiming itself. I gave it to you, including a study done on these glue traps which explain that animals break their bones on these things. The wildlife rehab centre states: "Many times, rodents will try to chew their limbs off in desperation to escape." I'm pretty sure they have good experience dealing in glue traps, not surprisingly enough you are ignoring this information. Why would they lie? Rehab centres actually encourage proper pest control because introduced animals are a menace to native species (which they specialise in). I guess all these people must be lying too? How about the fact that even a pest control company also makes mention of this on their fact sheet?Checked all three sources, not once was there a note of a specific case or first hand account of chewing through limbs. Only that some people say that glue traps are bad and that its possible for animals to do such behavior. Plus I dont believe you. Usually people on a soap box will say anything or overstate facts to prove their cause.
Also anecdotes are most often not facts
Possible and Proven may both start with P, but they are very very different.