Red Bourbon Turkey Sexing

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These guys were hatched in the beginning of Sepetember. I Purchased them on September 17th. I was wondering if anybody had any experience with red bourbon turkey sexing. I know it may be a little early to tell still but any guesses would be appreciated. The first one has a darker red face and getting more of the caruncles on him or her. The second one is slightly smaller and isn't getting as many of the caruncles.
 

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These guys were hatched in the beginning of Sepetember. I Purchased them on September 17th. I was wondering if anybody had any experience with red bourbon turkey sexing. I know it may be a little early to tell still but any guesses would be appreciated. The first one has a darker red face and getting more of the caruncles on him or her. The second one is slightly smaller and isn't getting as many of the caruncles.
Right now both look like hens. I can see a mix of both juvenile and adult feathers. When they have their adult breast feathers, Bourbon Red hens have a light colored lower edge on their breast feathers. Bourbon Red toms will have a dark colored or black lower edge on their adult breast feathers.

Both sexes have a light colored lower edge on their juvenile breast feathers.
 
They both look like hens to me at this point as well.

I've had 3 bourbon reds and all of them ended up toms, and around that age (3/4 months?) their necks were bare pretty far down (farther then my other hens had ever grown around that age), their snoods had started to flop over, they had attempted a gobble a few times, and had about 0 feathers left on their head/face. Caruncles weren't super huge at that point and they didn't have a lot, but the ones they did have were BRIGHT red and clustered down at the bottom of their necks where it touches the feathers.

I know that these alone aren't immediate pointers to "MALE" because females can have these too (One of my hens has a flopped over the side snood, and another one has a beard) but if you start noticing any male-like behaviors along with some of the "common" male traits, you might keep your eye out.
 
Updated pictures. They are about 5 months older. I believe one is a tom that is posing. Does anyone know else know about the other?
 

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Updated pictures. They are about 5 months older. I believe one is a tom that is posing. Does anyone know else know about the other?
I can't really tell from the photos. Check their breast feathers. Their breast feathers appear to be adult feathers. If they have light colored lower edges, they are hens. If they have dark colored lower edges, they are toms.
 

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