Good link. I like Sulfas or Amoxicillin for most bacterial diseases. Both seem to knock 'em out quite well. Cephalexin is another good one though Amoxicillin and Sulfas work well in water for flock treatment.
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So the saga continues, but bear with me the end is in sight. Now where were we? Oh yeah, got the lab results and it said pseudomonas and to use tetracycline to cure it. OK.
After a week of antibiotics I still had four or five birds with the symptoms so I went to the vet to get a syringe of Zactran, went home and gave the first bird an injection and in less than a minute she was dead. Man, that was hard. This particular hen was showing signs of getting better but was taking a long time in doing so, and I killed her. There is a story to go with what happened but suffice it to say that the vet assured me that it was too much stress that killed the hen. Well it was after hours when it happened and I could not get a hold of the vet so I did not give anymore injections in fear that I got the wrong meds. I called the vet office the next morning and they said she would call me back shortly.
Well we had to go, we had an auction to go to to unload a bunch of keets and poults, they had never been outside, hatched and raised in the garage so safe to sell. I tried to call the vet again that afternoon but she was gone for the day, this was Friday so no more contact with her until Monday morning. Saturday I had a hen, a sister to the one that died I thought was going broody so I put a pile of chicken eggs in the corner of the coop in hopes that she would set on them. Sunday evening when I went out to gather eggs she was dead. She showed no signs of being sick, just laying about in the coop, no droopy wings, wet nose, coughing, etc.
Monday morning I talked to the vet and she came out that afternoon. She inspected the premises and made some recommendations on ventilation and looked at a lot of crap, literally. She collected some samples of chicken crap and did a necropsy on the dead peahen and a chicken that was going to die. Oh yeah, between Friday and Monday we lost about twenty chickens too.
OK, so she did the necropsy's and collected specimens from various parts of the birds to send to the lab. As luck would have it she was moving her daughter to Manhattan to attend K-State the next day so she took the specimens directly to the lab. But, before all that she took a look at the CS she collected and called me that night and confirmed that the chickens had Coccidiosis and to bring her a sack of pea crap the next day and she would look at it when she got back from Manhattan.
Well we met her at the office when she got back and waited until she analyzed the crap. She found Coccidiosis, a round worm, and a whip worm, thankfully no blackhead. We worked out a plan on treating our entire flock while we await the results from the K-State Lab. First five days of Corid, thank you Kathy for the link on your signature. That takes us to Saturday then we wait for the results from the lab on what antibiotic we will use starting Monday, then we will follow it with a worming program. I wormed them in March before laying season but obviously we still have problems with worms.
The vet also instructed us to shovel out all the litter in the coops and pens, sterilize the ground with Tektrol and bleach, then replace all the litter. We are also sanitizing the nest boxes and walls, and feed pans.
I was feeling like the $160 I spent on the first lab report from Missouri was a waste of money but then again it did rule out Mycoplasma, so that was not spent in vain. I am just hoping that this K-State report and the vet money will be well spent and save my birds. And of course by sharing this story with the forum I may also help save someone else's birds too.
OK, now a question. I had a broody chicken hatch two peas today, if I bring them inside to the garage where my incubated peas are will that bring cocci in with them? I am thinking probably.
Second question. Should I also be treating my pea chicks in the garage with Corid? and how much? the 6% solution in Kathy's chart?
Thanks for all the support and advise!
After a week of antibiotics I still had four or five birds with the symptoms so I went to the vet to get a syringe of Zactran, went home and gave the first bird an injection and in less than a minute she was dead. Man, that was hard. This particular hen was showing signs of getting better but was taking a long time in doing so, and I killed her. There is a story to go with what happened but suffice it to say that the vet assured me that it was too much stress that killed the hen. Well it was after hours when it happened and I could not get a hold of the vet so I did not give anymore injections in fear that I got the wrong meds. I called the vet office the next morning and they said she would call me back shortly.
Well we had to go, we had an auction to go to to unload a bunch of keets and poults, they had never been outside, hatched and raised in the garage so safe to sell. I tried to call the vet again that afternoon but she was gone for the day, this was Friday so no more contact with her until Monday morning. Saturday I had a hen, a sister to the one that died I thought was going broody so I put a pile of chicken eggs in the corner of the coop in hopes that she would set on them. Sunday evening when I went out to gather eggs she was dead. She showed no signs of being sick, just laying about in the coop, no droopy wings, wet nose, coughing, etc.
Monday morning I talked to the vet and she came out that afternoon. She inspected the premises and made some recommendations on ventilation and looked at a lot of crap, literally. She collected some samples of chicken crap and did a necropsy on the dead peahen and a chicken that was going to die. Oh yeah, between Friday and Monday we lost about twenty chickens too.
OK, so she did the necropsy's and collected specimens from various parts of the birds to send to the lab. As luck would have it she was moving her daughter to Manhattan to attend K-State the next day so she took the specimens directly to the lab. But, before all that she took a look at the CS she collected and called me that night and confirmed that the chickens had Coccidiosis and to bring her a sack of pea crap the next day and she would look at it when she got back from Manhattan.
Well we met her at the office when she got back and waited until she analyzed the crap. She found Coccidiosis, a round worm, and a whip worm, thankfully no blackhead. We worked out a plan on treating our entire flock while we await the results from the K-State Lab. First five days of Corid, thank you Kathy for the link on your signature. That takes us to Saturday then we wait for the results from the lab on what antibiotic we will use starting Monday, then we will follow it with a worming program. I wormed them in March before laying season but obviously we still have problems with worms.
The vet also instructed us to shovel out all the litter in the coops and pens, sterilize the ground with Tektrol and bleach, then replace all the litter. We are also sanitizing the nest boxes and walls, and feed pans.
I was feeling like the $160 I spent on the first lab report from Missouri was a waste of money but then again it did rule out Mycoplasma, so that was not spent in vain. I am just hoping that this K-State report and the vet money will be well spent and save my birds. And of course by sharing this story with the forum I may also help save someone else's birds too.
OK, now a question. I had a broody chicken hatch two peas today, if I bring them inside to the garage where my incubated peas are will that bring cocci in with them? I am thinking probably.
Second question. Should I also be treating my pea chicks in the garage with Corid? and how much? the 6% solution in Kathy's chart?
Thanks for all the support and advise!
Does it rain alot there?
Wow, Cocci is a real B_______!
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I would say medicate all babies since you know the illness is there.
Does it rain alot there?
Compared to the last three years of drought we have had a nice wet spring.
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Wow, Cocci is a real B_______!I hate it, if I lose chicks, it is usually due to cocci, even though we feed medicated starter and I keep corid and SMZ/TMP on hand. It sounds like you are doing battle with several different bugs and that just muddies the water even more. Trying to figure out what is wrong is hard enough with only one disease present. I wish you the best and hope you are able to get this under control soon.
Thank you. Oh we are going to get this under control, it is just a bee-itch to go through as you said. None of our peas have had any contact with the outside birds but it does concern me that some of the chickens will wonder through the garage or that we may contaminate them with our clothing after being outside with the birds. So far we have not lost any of the peachicks.
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You know I think that the hardest part of this problem was just figuring out what the problem was, not only for us but for our vet as well. She was always saying that the pseudomonas was a secondary problem, I am just glad that the light came on for her with the loose messy stools she found when she came out here. That could be an important clue for anyone that is trying to figure out what their problem is in the future.
So kids, when out in the yard when trying to avoid stepping in the poo, try paying attention to what it looks like.
So kids, when out in the yard when trying to avoid stepping in the poo, try paying attention to what it looks like.
Time for more poop pictures, lol.
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Kathy, how much Corid per quart for the peachicks? They range from day old to seven weeks.
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