Safe-Guard Goat Dewormer

[casportpony]

So 10% suspention paste and liquid are dosed with the same amount of cc's?

Yes. one bottle of suspension = *5* 25 gram tubes of paste

 

[Riche Bronson]

And for capillary worms it's five days in a row.
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I realize this is an old post but I’ve been thru every board known to mankind and I’m just getting more confused with each post!
The SafeGuard (for goats) I have is 10% 100mg/mL. Another poster said give 0.92 of this for a 4 pound bird (perhaps she’s not aware it’s 100ml/ML) but this bottle says give 0.6ml to a 25 pound goat. ??? No way that can be right. I’m SO confused. So how much of this particular suspension do I give to a 4 pound chicken? And is it the same way- 5 days in a row orally? Ugh! So much contradictory information out there!

 

[casportpony]

I realize this is an old post but I’ve been thru every board known to mankind and I’m just getting more confused with each post!
The SafeGuard (for goats) I have is 10% 100mg/mL. Another poster said give 0.92 of this for a 4 pound bird (perhaps she’s not aware it’s 100ml/ML) but this bottle says give 0.6ml to a 25 pound goat. ??? No way that can be right. I’m SO confused. So how much of this particular suspension do I give to a 4 pound chicken? And is it the same way- 5 days in a row orally? Ugh! So much contradictory information out there!

The goat dose is only 5 mg/kg and the chicken dose is *much* higher. What worms do you want to treat?

 

[Riche Bronson]

The goat dose is only 5 mg/kg and the chicken dose is *much* higher. What worms do you want to treat?

Well I was hoping for a good all around wormer I suppose but capillary and gapeworm would be my biggest concerns.. neighbor kids have been feeding my girls earthworms. Also planned to hit them in a month or so with Wazine for the others- round worms. Is this a good plan? The only symptoms they’re having is they’re thin, and with as much as they eat- they should be fatter. They’ve never been wormed chemically- so I thought it might be a good idea.

 

[casportpony]

Here is what one vet suggests:

 

[casportpony]

Here's more:

Pictures from the Veterinary Parasitology Reference Manual - Fifth Edition

Roundworm




Cecal worm




Capillary worms




Gapeworm




Tapeworm

 

[ronott1]

Here's more:

Pictures from the Veterinary Parasitology Reference Manual - Fifth Edition

Roundworm




Cecal worm




Capillary worms




Gapeworm




Tapeworm

Nice post!

You have posted once or twice a year on this thread since it started in 2012...This should be your thread!

 

[Riche Bronson]

Here's more:

Pictures from the Veterinary Parasitology Reference Manual - Fifth Edition

Roundworm




Cecal worm




Capillary worms




Gapeworm




Tapeworm

So, I would think- and would you advise-(or at least concur since I’m sure you’re not a big fan of advising and then getting blamed if all goes awry? Haha!)- that I do the most aggressive treatment to cover the more stubborn infestations (which is the 5 day treatment, as far as I can tell) for the roundworms, cecal worms, capillary worms, and gapeworm, and then do niclosamide later.. if at all? I’m not sure they have tapeworm- I’ve never seen anything in their droppings that would lead me to believe that’s going on. (Then again, I’m not sure they have any worms at all- and our one local vet “doesn’t do birds”. Just figured since they’ve never been chemically wormed, and have been enjoying worms all summer- along with reading that other chicken keepers have a preventative worming schedule- that it was a safe bet.)

So on the dosage .92 mL per day for 5 days- as I explained the other poster had said- because you said the “chicken dose” is much higher? Just don’t want to kill the ladies, trying to take care of them. Kill them with kindness.. (I have a habit of that with house plants, and resolved not to add chickens to my personal hit list.)

And thanks a lot for your help, Casportpony. It’s very kind of you to take time out of your day to help out a (very confused and likely annoying) stranger. I’ve read through a lot of your posts over the course of the last week, and you seem very knowledgeable and generous with that knowledge. It’s much appreciated!

 

[Riche Bronson]

One more thing.. anyone got any idea how I’m going to get it IN the chicken? LOL! Hadn’t gotten to the whole practical application part yet. This should be entertaining! Let’s hope the neighbors aren’t watching when this grand experiment goes down!

 

[casportpony]

When I do mine for all worms I give the 0.23 ml per pound amount for five days. Right now I have a little 60 gram chick that I'm treating and it's on day three of 0.03 ml (chick is many weeks old, just really small and not growing).

The reason I posted all those pictures was to give you an idea of where I get my info from. As for the niclosamide, that's not one I would use. For tapes, I would use praziquantel.

Call your vet and ask if they will check some poop for you. If they won't check out one of those vaccination clinics at Tractor Supply or Petsmart, I think they do fecal testing.

If you do decide to use Safeguard please be sure to get a baseline weight on all of the birds and start weighing once a week. Since you say they feel think I think it's really important to watch them closely.

Oh, and before I forget, are they molting yet? If they are you don't want to use Safeguard or other in the same family because it can cause feather damage during molt.