Salmonella question and Organic feed question

[Neil Grassbaugh]

How many, "small-farm" do you know that have there birds tested for Salmonella?

Chris

With the resources the govenments have they can't even get to the small producers to do routine inspections. I personally know a state food inspector (now retired) that was sent to the Dayton farmers market and bought eggs from each and every vendor. They went to the ODA Lab in Reynodsburg, had the shells sanitized and were broken open so all the eggs could be mixed together and a survey culture conducted. The results- "the incidence of Salmonella enteritidis was alarming." They lack the funds to interceed, and they think that it is just as well. So they promote food safety on smaller scale to the public in general.​

 

[Neil Grassbaugh]

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Do your own research of scientific sources and do not rely on the "they say" and the "I heard" experts.

Perhaps you should ask what my sources are before you get insulting.
I CERTAINLY DID NOT INTEND TO INSULT YOU. I JUST SAID THAT YOU ARE WRONG.

I've been involved with the livestock health and food industries for quite some time.
THERE IS A REAL GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT I OUTWEIGH YOU IN THAT AREA.

As much as the USDA would like you to think that the eggs on the grocery store shelf are perfectly safe and that eggs from well-kept small farms are poison bombs, it's not the case.
THE USDA, THE EGG INDUSTRY AND YOUR MOTHER ALL PROMOTE SAFE FOOD HANDLING BECAUS SE CAN OCCUR IN ANY EGGS. MORE LIKELY IN NON COMMERCIAL EGGS BECAUS BACKYARD PRODUCERS DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE NOR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AT RISK.

If you can actually find the data, it turns out that there's almost never a case of salmonella from small-farm eggs,
WELL "ACTUALLY FIND" THAT DATA

but plenty from commercial egg factories.
THE EGG FACTORIES AND LARGE FARMS ARE SUBJECT TO REGULATIONS AND THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING THAT THE PRODUCTS ARE VERY SAFE.
READ, COMPREHEND AND APPLY THE FOLLOWING

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/focus_on_shell_eggs/index.asp#20

HERE IS SOMETHING NOT FROM THE GOVERNMENT, PRETTY UNDERSTANDABLE I THINK

http://news.discovery.com/human/egg-salmonella-bacteria.html

Why do you think they have to pastuerize and irradiate so many commercial eggs?
BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD WAY TO FURTHER PROMOTE FOOD SAFETY SINCE SO MANY SEEM TO BE UNABKE TO PROTECT THEMSEVES FROM FACTS OF NATURE.

I've been raising chickens and eating their eggs (even raw) for 20 years and spent 9 semesters at a university studying food animal science.
WONDERFUL. I WISH I COULD LIVE LONG ENOUGH FOR YOU TO CATCH UP WITH ME.

 

[Chris09]

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With the resources the govenments have they can't even get to the small producers to do routine inspections. I personally know a state food inspector (now retired) that was sent to the Dayton farmers market and bought eggs from each and every vendor. They went to the ODA Lab in Reynodsburg, had the shells sanitized and were broken open so all the eggs could be mixed together and a survey culture conducted. The results- "the incidence of Salmonella enteritidis was alarming." They lack the funds to interceed, and they think that it is just as well. So they promote food safety on smaller scale to the public in general.

They went to the ODA Lab in Reynodsburg,

East Main Street Reynoldsburg?

That was what I was getting at. I don't know one backyard "poultry raiser" (non-breeder) that is having there flock/eggs tested for Salmonella.
I bet those tests were was off the chart. LOL

For the those that are reading this -
I would also like to add that no matter how clean you think your pens, and flock are you always run the risk of your birds getting salmonella or any number of disease if they free range and/ or are out and around wild birds/animals.

Chris​