scrambled egg poop

[lissalischicks]

Yes they get oyster shell free choice and in the last few weeks I have seen her eating some shells. She had a horrendous first molt. I had posted about her a while back because I thought she wasn't going to make it. She was down to 3 pounds. She finally came around about a month ago but she still is not as steady (i.e when she goes down from our raised flower bed area she usually has to use a wing to steady herself. So to help her me lined the raised area with bricks so she can do a smaller step down) I think her and my black orpington are going to be the death of me.

 

[lissalischicks]

@Lady of McCamley - I looked through the chart and I don't see anything like the poop my girl did. I swear it looks like someone threw pieces of scrambled egg around.

She was wormed about 3 months ago.

I can start a Corid treatment tomorrow as a precaution for all my girls

 

[Lady of McCamley]

This is what salpingitis "lash eggs" look like.
http://www.the-chicken-chick.com/2014/12/salpingitis-lash-eggs-in-backyard/

Without seeing it, it is hard to say. With the history, it may be internal disorders such as ovarian cancer or other disease such as black head (see histamoniasis below).

She doesn't sound like she has been healthy, which can also cause liver distress.

If salpingitis, that is pretty much a death sentence. Some hens have been saved with hysterectomies and strong rounds of antibiotics, but most of us don't go to that length.

It is also possible it could be histomoniasis (black head). Do you have turkeys around? Have your hens been feasting on earthworms? Is it possible the chickens have cecal worms? Histomoniasis is much more common in turkeys, and deadly for them. Chickens can get it, but in a milder form.

It produces waxy yellow streaks in poo or a mustard yellow poo. It is caused by a protozoa which is treated with specific meds (which I read have been taken off the market). I'll link that as well. (Mind you, it is not likely you have histomonasis but possible).

http://articles.extension.org/pages/68108/blackhead-in-poultry

Sorry. Can't suggest more than TLC right now.
LofMc

 

[lissalischicks]

Can you do a Corid treatment and Ivermectin at the same time?

She has never really bounced back 100% since her molt. Which I am quite saddened by. I think she she has been at 90 to 95% back but I love her because she has the best happy purr. She was purring this morning and it made me all giddy. At this point she is acting normal so if she has anything she isn't showing it.

We don't have turkeys but we had a lot of rain about a 2 weeks ago and they were eating all the bugs that came up so eating earthworms is not farfetched as they free range around the backyard.

I could give her some Phyllanthus niruri to try to help her liver.

Thanks for all the advice LofMc.... I always feel better just talking it over with everyone because in the end we all do our best

 

[Lady of McCamley]

You could give Corid and Ivermectin...but why?

Ivermectin is not an antibiotic. It won't touch cecal worms (the vector of blackhead). Keeping cecal worms down helps avoid the transmission of blackhead form the cecal worms, but worming now won't cure the protozoa in the bird's system...if that is what is is.

There is nothing on the market now for poultry with histomoniasis (blackhead). Some antibiotics help, but it is thought for the secondary infections.

Anything to support the liver would be good...I've never heard of nor used Phyllanthus niri, so I can't comment on its effectiveness nor safety for chickens. Note, not all herbals are safe for hens. Notably, thyme can be toxic.

As to Corid...that could be helpful. I have seen some commentary that has seen yellowish poop with coccidioisis. Coccidiosis does not have to produce bloody diarrhea. It depends on the type of coccida that is causing the infection. Some nestle higher in the digestive tract, causing stress on the liver.

Corid would be an option, as well as some other general support.

It is good that she is eating and drinking and acting normally. It may be a low level infection or possibly some internal issues. That is a problem with the aging commercial breeds.

Good luck. Hopefully she will rally.
Lofmc

 

[Eggcessive]

Yolk-colored droppings is a common sign of egg yolk peritonitis. There are many articles to read about if you Google it. The antibiotics, depending on what you use, could extend her life, but eventually it may kill her. I have had hens live a couple of years with suspected EYP.

 

[lissalischicks]

I think you are right Eggcessive. It sounds like it could be Egg Yolk Peritonitis because it looks like egg yolk. She doesn't have a swollen abdomen so hopefully no ascities. Below are more fresh poop from overnight. She is very happy and doing good now so I guess time will just tell how long she has.

 

[Eggcessive]

Some people do try antibiotics such as amoxicillin (fish mox available online) or baytril (google baytril or enrofloxacin sources)to prolong life and prevent infection. I usually don’t since it may not help. We can help with dosages if needed.

 

[lissalischicks]

I talked it over and we decided when she showing symptoms of not being able to thrive we would cull. We haven't figured out how or who but we agreed for us it was the right thing. I am willing to give anitbiotics so she doesn't feel as bad or suffering so any help with that would be great! I am going to the pet store now to see if I can get some Fish Mox.

She is still happy right now and is actually dustbathing as we speak so I am still hoping she will recover and live a happy life with us. I don't care if she doesn't lay another egg ever. I am going to get a necropsy for her when the time comes ... I just have to call and ask how to ship the her to the facility.

 

[Eggcessive]

Sounds like a good plan. If you Google FishMox, many sell it online. Dosage for a chicken is 125 mg twice a day. For my pets I get the 250 mg capsules, mix well into a little wet cat food and give half in the morning and half in the evening.