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I'm sure they are culls but in the development stage they were part of it. From what I can understand they were also part of the development in the production program. AKA the terminal generation. "say post 1955, as the poultry industry moved to an entirely hybrid-based terminal generation" (quote) Being an English mag it's hard to understand some of the terms, such as "Rhodes". Rhode Island Reds? It mentions RI white too but I can't understand some of the terms and thought maybe some here might have read the article and set me straight.

I suppose my point was that "However , I'm afraid that we have to face the fact that few of either today's exhibition forms, or yesteryear's foundation utility strains, made their was successfully through the years as totally uncontaminated, genetic entities. " (quote)

The article also uses the term "utility white wyadottes". So it seems to me that many breeds were "production/ utility" breeds before the standards were designed. Am I right? That in the development stage crosses between single combed and rose combed birds would not entirely eliminate the comb genetics and one might get a bird with either somewhere down the line. Right? It does mention stabilizing the traits. The article also show pictures of white wyandottes that are far from the "ball" shaped birds we see today.

Much like a lavender orp might throw a black or a bird with both colors. From what i can understand the APA or is it the ALBC considers a breed a breed based solely on the appearance rather than what's in the bloodline and what breed was used to bring the breed to standard. Right? I always thought if you crossed a Del with a Del the offspring had to look like a Del and not show signs of a CR, but I think I may be wrong now. Am I? While you may not show a Del with CR showing if it looks like a Del it's doesn't matter if there is CR in the line. Am I right? In other words there is no such thing as purity. Am I right?
 
Because there are no "pedigrees" in chickens like there are in dogs.......showing is purely phenotypical. As in, if it looks like a Del, it would be shown as a Del. Unfortunately, a bird who may look Delaware and win shows left and right may not be able to breed true, if not an actual delaware in genotype.

You are correct. So if Kathy crossing her Barred Rocks and New Hamps makes beautiful birds that look like Delawares......guess what....they can be shown as delawares. You don't have to prove ancestry of "pure" stock (whatever that means) like with Dogs.
 
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Really? Wow, how interesting! Kathy, I would love to see pics once you breed!
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Well.....I didn't say it was RIGHT. Just that it was possible. If the birds looks like a Delaware, the judge has no way of knowing otherwise. It's almost as though it is not a DELAWARE competition......rather a contest to see if the "bird" being shown matches the Delaware SOP.
 
Nick.....if the bird is acting normally, I would personally recommend separating her and watching her. Any chance of cocci? Never heard of strawberry jelly poop! But I go by the behavior the most......so if she is acting normal, just watch her for now.
 
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Alright, thanks! I had 2 die of cocci in the June in another coop, but none since then and I keep a pretty dry environment. It's not bloody poop, just... jelly-ish! But the run has been soaked lately... about one inch of MUD!
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I think I'll go ahead and separate her. Thanks for your help.
 
I put her in the new, un-used brooder in the garage. Just took out the heat lamps and the divider. While I was out there, I snapped some pics. I also took some of the others free ranging, but I'll post those tonight. Remind me! Here's the lovely lady in the brooder.


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Thanks so much, Kathy. But just in case, I'll keep her in there through the night and if everything's good tomorrow than I'll put her back with the others.
 

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