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[Razadia]

I have a question, would it be a good idea to use vinegar diluted in water to clean the wound on my hen? She had a patch of skin and feathers ripped out the other day when the dogs attacked. I haven't been able to find any other way to clean the wound and get the last bit of dirt and grass out of it. I don't want to use peroxide or alcohol on her, it just seems like a bad idea to me. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about that. We also don't have any neosporin around or anything like it without a painkiller in it, so I was thinking about using Vaseline in it's place.

Both ideas (vinegar and Vaseline) came from after my dad had surgery on his face to remove skin cancer. It's what his Dr said to do and I want to know if it could be done to my hen with the same results.

She came out of shock yesterday and started eating and drinking again today. So long as she doesn't get an infection I know she'll make it.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

I would just wash it with soap and water or you can use normal saline if you have some instead of water.

Is the wound weeping or scabbing? The general rule is: if it's wet, dry it. If it's dry, wet it. So if it's scabby, go ahead and use the vaseline. I would suggest, however, getting someone to go out and buy you some generic triple antibiotic ointment sans painkiller for a few bucks. I'm sure she's fighting some infection, might as well give it some help.

 

[Razadia]

I would just wash it with soap and water or you can use normal saline if you have some instead of water.

Is the wound weeping or scabbing? The general rule is: if it's wet, dry it. If it's dry, wet it. So if it's scabby, go ahead and use the vaseline. I would suggest, however, getting someone to go out and buy you some generic triple antibiotic ointment sans painkiller for a few bucks. I'm sure she's fighting some infection, might as well give it some help.

Neither. It mostly exposed muscle and a lot of skin around it is pulled free. I would stitch her up after I get the wound clean, but there's just too much skin missing. It is dry, but it still bleeds if she moves around too much.

 

[dsqard]

Razadia I would go with SCG's idea and see if you can flush it out with saline or just plain water as best as possible. I wouldn't try to cover it with anything that would seal in any dirt. You could also put some blu-kote on it and some wonder dust if you have them handy. Just try to keep her from moving around a lot. They actually heal up fairly well without too much intervention as long as you don't get a massive infection going.

 

[uphilljill]

I just had a similar thing happen with one of my guinea hens. I used 50/50 warm water/peroxide to flush the wound just the first time I cleaned it. (I read this recommendation somewhere on BYC.) In addition to sanitizing it, the fizziness really helped bubble all the dirt and other junk out. But since they now say peroxide can kill new cells, I used it only once diluted. Vinegar might help sanitize it, but it won't fizz. Neosporin (and probably vaseline) seems to help sooth the raw skin as well.

I also followed Ron & Silkie's suggestion and gave her antibiotics since I had them handy. You never know where a dog's mouth has been. Hope she recovers.

 

[Razadia]

Thanks everyone. I've got someone on the way to the store now. I've been giving her some poultry antibiotics since she started drinking again.

 

[ronott1]

Thanks everyone. I've got someone on the way to the store now. I've been giving her some poultry antibiotics since she started drinking again.

I used Vetricyn Gel for my two that were beaten up--Both made it fine.

Keep us posted no her recovery.

 

[SilkieSensation]

Quote: Blue x Blue gives you Blue, black or Splash

Second Annual Cinco De Mayo Turkey Hatch a long Digest 5-5-2013


Silkie Sensation is getting a new incubator! It all has something to do with visiting an old farmer and making the DH turn the eggs…So lucky….

The humidity refuses to go above 35% and I don't want to open the bator. SilkieSensation told me that the humidity should be at 40% for the quail to hatch. I guess it's time to go find something to add water with. I can't wait until they start hatching!

I haven't checked in on the broody yet, but considering the fact that I checked on them around 3 I think it's safe to say I might have at least one chick hatched. I'm going to check on them in a bit and give a count on what's hatched so far.

I have a question, would it be a good idea to use vinegar diluted in water to clean the wound on my hen? She had a patch of skin and feathers ripped out the other day when the dogs attacked. I haven't been able to find any other way to clean the wound and get the last bit of dirt and grass out of it. I don't want to use peroxide or alcohol on her, it just seems like a bad idea to me. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about that. We also don't have any neosporin around or anything like it without a painkiller in it, so I was thinking about using Vaseline in it's place.

Both ideas (vinegar and Vaseline) came from after my dad had surgery on his face to remove skin cancer. It's what his Dr said to do and I want to know if it could be done to my hen with the same results.

She came out of shock yesterday and started eating and drinking again today. So long as she doesn't get an infection I know she'll make it.

I would just wash it with soap and water or you can use normal saline if you have some instead of water.

Is the wound weeping or scabbing? The general rule is: if it's wet, dry it. If it's dry, wet it. So if it's scabby, go ahead and use the vaseline. I would suggest, however, getting someone to go out and buy you some generic triple antibiotic ointment sans painkiller for a few bucks. I'm sure she's fighting some infection, might as well give it some help.

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Razadia I would go with SCG's idea and see if you can flush it out with saline or just plain water as best as possible. I wouldn't try to cover it with anything that would seal in any dirt. You could also put some blu-kote on it and some wonder dust if you have them handy. Just try to keep her from moving around a lot. They actually heal up fairly well without too much intervention as long as you don't get a massive infection going.

I just had a similar thing happen with one of my guinea hens. I used 50/50 warm water/peroxide to flush the wound just the first time I cleaned it. (I read this recommendation somewhere on BYC.) In addition to sanitizing it, the fizziness really helped bubble all the dirt and other junk out. But since they now say peroxide can kill new cells, I used it only once diluted. Vinegar might help sanitize it, but it won't fizz. Neosporin (and probably vaseline) seems to help sooth the raw skin as well.

I also followed Ron & Silkie's suggestion and gave her antibiotics since I had them handy. You never know where a dog's mouth has been. Hope she recovers.

Quote: To all of this: I consulted a vet when we had a coon attack last summer. The recommendation was an initial flush with very diluted peroxide water, coat with neosporin for the 1st 24-48 hours & wrap if needed to keep her from picking at it, immediately start on antibiotics to suppress infection, change bandage daily or more often if needed & coat with blu-kote after 24-48 hours. Wraps only as long as necessary. Keep vitamins & elecytolytes in water for at least a week. Healing can take a month or longer.

 

[Manningjw]

13 out of my 14 eggs that made it to lockdown have hatched! The last 4 eggs were kinda messy, the 14th egg didn't make it, on eggtopsy it seemed like she eviscerated her yoke sack and there may have even been internal organs outside of her body? Really wasn't sure what happened but it was messy and there were several masses outside of the little chick. She was fully formed and pipped about 1 day before she quit moving.

Quick question on possibly cleaning chicks after hatching. Several of my chicks appear to have yoke(ruptured sack?) in the shell covering them and eventually just plastering the membrane of the shell to the chicks down. After a over 1.5 days of not progressing I helped them out of the shell but the bits of membrane were still plastered to them which for some made them unable to walk/move. How can I clean this off or should I let the plastered down work itself loose on its own? Can they come out of the incubator once they are dry but still look wet because of the yoke holding the down together?

 

[ronott1]

13 out of my 14 eggs that made it to lockdown have hatched! The last 4 eggs were kinda messy, the 14th egg didn't make it, on eggtopsy it seemed like she eviscerated her yoke sack and there may have even been internal organs outside of her body? Really wasn't sure what happened but it was messy and there were several masses outside of the little chick. She was fully formed and pipped about 1 day before she quit moving.

Quick question on possibly cleaning chicks after hatching. Several of my chicks appear to have yoke(ruptured sack?) in the shell covering them and eventually just plastering the membrane of the shell to the chicks down. After a over 1.5 days of not progressing I helped them out of the shell but the bits of membrane were still plastered to them which for some made them unable to walk/move. How can I clean this off or should I let the plastered down work itself loose on its own? Can they come out of the incubator once they are dry but still look wet because of the yoke holding the down together?

use a Q tip moistened with warm water to work as much of the membrane as possible off of them. Make sure the vent is open but make sure not to pull on anything. You can pull organs out that way.

I wait a couple of days before doing a thorough cleaning.