Self Blue Cochin Bantam

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by cochin123, Aug 6, 2009.

  1. cochin123

    cochin123 Songster

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    hi
    i have this little cochin hen i have ben told that she is a blue and that she is a self blue , so what is she , oh and when breed to a black cochin i got all black chicks [​IMG] thank yall so much
     
  2. amazondoc

    amazondoc Cracked Egghead

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    She's a totally worthless, awful, nasty looking excuse for a bird.

    And you need to send her to me.

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    She appears to be a "self-blue", aka lavender, bantam cochin. It is not like Andalusian blue, in that it's a simple recessive gene. When bred to black, you'll get all black offspring. But if you breed those black offspring to each other, you should get 1/4 pure black, 1/2 black carrying lavender, and 1/4 lavender in the grandkids.

    Have fun with her, she's a very pretty girl!
     
  3. Agree with Amazon...she's awful and really needs to be sent to either one of us. [​IMG]

    Very nice little lavender girl. Breed one of her black boys back to her and then hatch those eggs. You can get a nice little lavender flock going!
     
  4. Krys109uk

    Krys109uk Songster

    Your breeding results do suggest lavender. How many chicks did you hatch from her?

    She is a different colour to my lavenders; mine are mostly lighter & with even colouring. She puts me more in mind of blue with her dark hackles & dark edging in her lower hackles. That said, my computer screen does not seem to show colours well. [​IMG]
     
  5. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude

    She seems like a blue rather than self blue, from that picture, but I have only one lavender bird to go by, my banty Cochin, Shadow. Usually, don't lavenders have a more even coloration and the blues (I have BBS Orps) have the darker heads?

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  6. Dustin Biery

    Dustin Biery Songster

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    I agree with Cynthia. She looks like a blue rather than lavendar. How many chicks did you hatch from her?
     
  7. DiVon80

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    I have blues and she looks just like them! She is very pretty girl![​IMG]
     
  8. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Yes, andalusian blue. It is possible that she is also lavender, but unless you know her parentage, don't count on it.

    Notice how her hackles are darker? you don't get that from lavender. As to all black chicks, the probabilities are actually related to EACH chick. For large numbers of offspring the percentages tend to reflect fairly accurately for the whole population; for small numbers they can be WAY off.
     
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  9. amazondoc

    amazondoc Cracked Egghead

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    I ain't buyin' it. I don't think you're gonna get a color that even with Andalusian blue, and the apparently dark hackles and head could be an affect of lighting.

    How many chicks did you hatch from her?
     
  10. cochinman2005

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    95% sure she's a Blue, and not Lavender.

    Dark head would indicate Blue, and Lavender is much more even in color. Her type, ie, she seems to have very nice type from the photo also leads me to believe that she's a Blue. I am working on Lavenders and if there were base birds to start with like that available I'd be much farther along.

    The statistics for hatch percentages can be all over the place in small numbers. You might get all blacks in a hatch of 3 or 4 and then in the next all Blues. Plus there's the added case that you bred her to a Black, so you can expect 50% Blue and 50% Black so you may have just gotten all the 50% Black chicks in this batch. True test would be to hatch 10 or 20 and see what you get.

    For additional comparison for color check out these two strings.

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=223211

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=222829
     

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