I had read enough of the thread to know what I was getting into. I asked them to be brutally honest, and they were. I don't post much on there because I am still searching for the right birds, but I subscribed so I could watch the debates. There are some very dedicated people on that thread. If I want to be serious, I post there. When I'm feeling childish, you guys know where I amLurking because you don't dare post again? Eat them and start over is a pretty cute comment though! LOL Oh yes, there are many dedicated to their breeds, and will tell you bluntly what is wrong with yours. I try to be careful when I post pics, and admit that mine are not presumed to be SQ, they are pets. haha