Shipped: 15 Barbu D'anvers, 5 possible flavors

SarahLadd

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Jun 23, 2017
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I picked up seven live chicks after a 14.5 hour straight drive and came away with ZERO d'anvers hens. What an enormous bummer, and I can't keep roosters. Husband was heartbroken, he really liked our little boys, but chicks are hard to come by so we're going in deep with shipped eggs for our first try at incubating. I know, I know, like learning to ride a horse on an arabian. I'm not going to get my hopes up super high, but I'm also going to try doing my due diligence by learning what I can and trying my best.

I ordered 12 eggs and received 15. The box arrived on my doorstep at 11:30 AM on Thursday the 24th, right side up, and in pristine shape. I temp gunned the eggs at about 80f. A 12 hour sit was recommended by the breeder. Every egg was oriented in the box point down, so they rested in their box. I washed my hands, carefully removed every cream colored egg from its bubble wrap burrito, used a soft pencil to give it a number and wrote down its weight after weighing it. My biggest egg weighed 39 grams, my smallest egg 25 grams! That small egg is soooo small! Average egg size 34 grams.

I candled each egg before I sat them into the incubator. I searched for this "air sac" in each egg. It is very small and hard if not impossible for me to really see right now. I have my suspicions that egg #3 is not going to make it. I see bubbles in the top when I handle the egg in my fingers. I see nothing else in the eggs, such as cracks or movement or anything very visible besides the fuzzy darkness of the yolk. My incubator, the Nurture Right 360, had been running for at least a few days and the humidity showed 50% (using distilled water) and temperature at 99.5%. I cross referenced the temperature and humidity with other calibrated probes and determined its reading to be accurate. Each egg got an X on one side and an O on the other, and in they all went. I checked the rotating feature and it looked like it worked perfectly. The eggs were set this morning at 12:30 AM.

Upon waking for the day at 8 AM, I noticed that my eggs were not turning completely anymore. They were turning, but it seems sort of janky. After some research I discovered that the rotation tray isn't really made for such little eggs, and so, the husband is using his 3D printer to print a "mini bantam" size turning tray from off of Thingiverse. Shoutout to whoever modeled it up so I could do this. I will replace the turner when I candle the eggs for life at day 4(?). In the mean time, I am letting the machine just run and do its thing.

I hope that my process so far has been correct enough that we're off to a good start. If it seems like I missed any crucial steps, please let me know.

Crossing my fingers for at least two. Please at least two!! The possible colors in this mix are mille fleur, blue mille fleur, blue buff columbian, blue quail, and porcelain.

Thank you for joining me!
 

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I see my thread moved. I'm not sure why, is hatch a longs not the right place for this?

Anyway, I'm on day 3/69 hours of incubating and I took this time to install the 3d printed turning tray, candle every egg and weigh each one.

I have 5 eggs in the bunch that aren't showing really obvious signs of development. That means I've got 10 definitive embryos cooking. Way cool! Over half the eggs lost a gram in weight and the other half weighed the same as set day.

I'll check in again at day 7.
 

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It is day 7, and I have just finished candling and recording weights. Ah, the air sacs, there they are. And they are all over the place :(... now I am trying to research what I should do next. Only a few of my eggs have normal looking air sacs and the rest are varying degrees of saddle and off positioning, from not super alarming to "oh no". I have one egg where the sac is on the pointy end... and one with a sac on the side.

My smallest egg seems to have started and died. The five I suspected are still completely clear with no activity. I will put them back for now.

All the other embryos are alive and very active.
 

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The chicks are due to hatch in 6 days, and I haven't really been updating because my thread didn't really get any interest. But I figured for posterity and anyone using search to find shipped hatching eggs threads like mine, I should follow up and at least get some end results. (I'm an internet/forum search fiend, and the number of threads started and never finished is too damn high. If half the threads started on incubating shipped eggs stop being updated halfway through, the search result was a waste of time to find and start reading.)

As of right now, 5 eggs never developed, 1 egg died very early and another died about 6 days ago I'd guess, which means out of the 15 I started with 8 are still visibly moving around inside the shell when candled.

My weights are going down at 5% increments every 7 days so I assume that I am on track for as good a hatch as I'm gonna get. I will be watching closely because my air cells are in strange spots for a few and I'm not confident that I'll know how to help them if they need it so I'm extra not confident that they'll begin life on earth so I'm trying to mentally stay pragmatic and less emotionally invested than I think I would be otherwise.
 
Alright, I'm gonna tie up this thread with a little eggtopsy bow.

The result of my incubation was 6 healthy chicks out of 15.

5 never developed, 2 died early and 2 died late term.

My first pip was the first to hatch, second pip was the last to hatch. Shortest time from pip to zip was 18 hours, longest time was 23 hours. My biggest chick weighed 27 grams at hatch, smallest chick weighed 21 grams, but the rest were 23 grams. I seem to have 3 porcelain colored, one mille fleur and 2 mystery colors.

I opened the early quitters last week. One embryo started and died very fast. The other must have passed about day 4.

The late term losses I can only speculate. #7 did not pip internally, but the yolk was fully absorbed, positioned correctly for hatch, completely formed and ready to go. #4 pipped internally but still had a ton of yolk and was small and seemed like it needed more time. When I opened the air cell on #4, the cell had a lot of fluid inside. I'm guessing it drowned? Not sure. #7 looks like a mille fleur and #4 was another mystery color.

I welcome critique of my embryos. If I hatch eggs again, I'd like to learn so I can do better.
 

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They are sooo cute! i hope you get some pullets this time :)

The late quitters are sad to see...

I’m doing my first incubation too, it was fairly disappointing as half were not even fertilized. One had a meat spot and another died 5 days in. Now I’m just waiting on the two left over ... :fl
 
They are sooo cute! i hope you get some pullets this time :)

The late quitters are sad to see...

I’m doing my first incubation too, it was fairly disappointing as half were not even fertilized. One had a meat spot and another died 5 days in. Now I’m just waiting on the two left over ... :fl
I had to rethink the eggs that didn't start. I don't know if that's a fertility thing or that the eggs were just that badly scrambled by postal service that they were unable to start. I think there's no way of knowing, but the evidence is in the air cells, for sure. I had some cells that were just a mess.

To my surprise, however, despite incubating my eggs on their sides, some of those more misshapen air cells corrected significantly by lockdown, and very surprising is that the small-end-of-egg-cell hatched a healthy little baby. That said, the smallest egg is one of the early deaths, and the worst saddled air cell was also an early death. My late term babies both had acceptable cell shape and position and still ended up dying for some reason.

What are you hatching? How many eggs? What day are they on? Are they shipped, too?
 

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