Should I try to keep the community great pyrenese?

[watchdogps]

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Exactly!
As to why to GPs' (or any other livestock guardian dog) wander - they were developed in areas where they had thousands of acres and no fences. Their JOB is to wander with the flock. It was far different from here where we have plots of land that are owned and fenced and such.

 

[dainerra]

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check your local laws, but in many places even this counts as you taking ownership of Murray. A woman I know had a neighbor who moved away and left behind a small flock of guineas. She felt sorry for them since it was winter so she started scattering some corn for them. A few months later someone swerved to avoid them in the road and totaled her car. She ended up on the hook for over $30,000 in car and medical bills.
That means that if he gets hurt, they could come after you with cruelty charges if he doesn't go to the vet.

It might be a case where an "all or nothing" approach would be best.

ETA: just something to think about

 

[gritsar]

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check your local laws, but in many places even this counts as you taking ownership of Murray. A woman I know had a neighbor who moved away and left behind a small flock of guineas. She felt sorry for them since it was winter so she started scattering some corn for them. A few months later someone swerved to avoid them in the road and totaled her car. She ended up on the hook for over $30,000 in car and medical bills.
That means that if he gets hurt, they could come after you with cruelty charges if he doesn't go to the vet.

It might be a case where an "all or nothing" approach would be best.

ETA: just something to think about

That wouldn't happen around here. The only laws we have concerning animals are a joke. The general attitude is, animals are a dime a dozen. If your dog goes onto a neighbors property and causes problems, you shoot it; end of story. No SSS, you call the neighbor and tell them what you did and why. It's accepted that an animal that causes problems will be taken out.

I know of one neighbor that said Murray growled at his child. His child is a hellion, so I can imagine the kid did something to make Murray growl. Man said if it happened again he was going to shoot Murray. Told all the neighbors that. No one had a problem.

 

[dainerra]

yeah, but it's not really the neighbors you have to worry about. In the case I mentioned, the woman's auto insurance company filed the lawsuit.

Civil law is entirely different than the laws usually mentioned in regards to roaming animals and livestock. Then, of course, is the sad thing that most neighbors' attitudes change when they smell the opportunity of money.

Again, though, just wanted to make sure that you knew that it could be a possibility

I'd adopt him if I were you

 

[redhen]

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I agree, poor guy.

But you will have a HARD time keeping him contained, because hes already used to wandering/patrolling the area...

 

[navasima]

gritsar - You are doing a good job of approaching this rationally (genuine - no sarcasm at all). Now - What does your gut say? Have you taken a shine to this big guy? What's the answer to: If he did not come back would you miss him? That's the answer to your question. Go with your gut - you can wrap your brain around it later. Do the opposite and you'll just get an ulcer!

 

[Katy]

Our farming neighborhood used to have a neighborhood GP. A neighbor a couple miles to the east brought him home from the vets where he had been turned in as a stray and never claimed. He started roaming around visiting different farms in about a 3 mile by 3 mile radius.....maybe further but that is the area I would see him in. He never stopped here since our dogs kept him moving on. He wandered from one farm to another for 2 or 3 years. I don't know if somebody got tired of him coming around and disposed of him or what happened to him. I know at least 2 of the neighbors fed him and tried to get him to stay but he always moved on eventually.

 

[rittert3]

As far as taking a full grown male gp whos been roaming to the vet, I would be very carefull. I wouldn't want a dog that size to get snappy with me and with his breed, sex, routine, ect. I wouldn't doubt it as a possibility when you go to load him in the truck. I'm not saying they are a bad breed or anything of the sort, but they can be vary mule headed and he may not like you trying to put him in a vehicle. I would probably just continue what you're doing and be thankful that you're rewarded with his services. Also if he was a female my answer would differ greatly. In gp's females don't have near the urge to roam as males an like to stick to a smaller area. Either way I have never seen or heard of a coyote that was willing to take on a gp.