Silkie thread!

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So sorry about losing your chick.  I just spent over $100 on a juvenile shipped to me a few weeks ago that had Cocci, CRD, and round worms all at once.  I have a good vet and sometimes save money when I know all he needs to diagnose my chickens is a fecal sample and that way I just get charged a lab fee.  Of course I've been going to him for a couple years and know now if I have to take a chicken in for exam or if I just need to drop off a lab sample.  It's nice to have a vet that sees poultry but it can get expensive and there's never a convenient time for emergency visits.  But every animal deserves a good vet whether it's a dog, cat, iguana, parrot, aviary bird, poultry, goat, sheep, pig, or horse!

you are right about that!! I honestly don't care to spend any ( or even all my money on any animal in need of vet care but I have no money right now to take the poor little guy in!! Last weeks vet bill ended up $960.00 to get my two Persian cats put under n shaved and flea meds, de worm then for that baby chick I had to put down. It upsets me I don't have a vet like yours!! My vet is blue pearl avian n exotics ER and they never once told me they could take a decal sample for tests to run on any of my birds I brought in so now I'm not so sure if Its the best place to go to.

it's hard to find a vet that takes chickens in Pete Florida! Anyways thanks for the input !!

 

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you are right about that!! I honestly don't care to spend any ( or even all my money on any animal in need of vet care but I have no money right now to take the poor little guy in!! Last weeks vet bill ended up $960.00 to get my two Persian cats put under n shaved and flea meds, de worm then for that baby chick I had to put down. It upsets me I don't have a vet like yours!! My vet is blue pearl avian n exotics ER and they never once told me they could take a decal sample for tests to run on any of my birds I brought in so now I'm not so sure if Its the best place to go to.

it's hard to find a vet that takes chickens in Pete Florida! Anyways thanks for the input !!

[ I almost forgot the important news!!! IVE BEEN PUTTING LITTLE NEOSPORIN ON HIS SWOLLEN BEAK THROUGH THE DAY AND ITS LOOKING BETTER!! I'm not so sure it'll heal it but at least it looks better!!

 

[Ravynscroft]

Another update on the little black pullet that had the brain injury. She is up and walking. She's not standing all the way up like she is suppose to but she is still improving. Her balance is still off but thats improving as well. I did a little walk test on her yesterday. Most chickens tend to get off balance when we pick them up then set them back down. She was just a little more off balance than normal. She is eating and drinking and taking advantage of the greens I give her everyday now that everything is green here. There is this weed that all my chickens love   that grows everywhere. I have a little patch that I won't allow DH to mow, weed eat or spray. I gather a bucket full and pass it out to everybody. I keep nearly all my chickens penned so I have to provide them with greens. The only really big hen I have gets to roam free a couple times a week. The hawks around here will swoop up the silkies. This hen is a real bruiser of a chicken. 

Anyway, Thank you to all of you that helped with your advice and experience so I could get this pullet back up and living life like a chicken should.           :yiipchick      

I put all the happy ones up to show you all how thankful I am.

YAY!!! So happy to hear she's doing better!! Great job to you for sticking with her!!

 

[Sylvester017]

I do hope that you have removed that seller from your contact list. If it were me , I would make sure others were aware of this unscrupulous seller.

Most assuredly so!

It was a breeder who believes in "natural" remedies only. ACV and garlic do not prevent/cure round worms, cocci, or CRD. There is just too much info out there that doesn't support such nonsense. That is my conclusion after dealing with "all natural" approach! But hey if that's what their method is - more power to them. Out of a flock of 100 chickens they might get 2 or 3 genetic survivors but for me, I don't play roulette with flock health.

My consolation is that the sweet bird (NOT a Silkie) reached my destination where his maladies were addressed immediately and he's a beautiful bird (he was sent to me in error--long story). I found him a new home but on another BYC thread if someone wants him as breeder stock (his original intent) I can retrieve him if there is interest in him. He is such a love, walks up to us, stands still to let us bend down and pick him up -- but alas! we're not zoned for cockerels!

 

[Fancychooklady]

Most assuredly so!

It was a breeder who believes in "natural" remedies only.  ACV and garlic do not prevent/cure round worms, cocci, or CRD.    There is just too much info out there that doesn't support such nonsense.  That is my conclusion after dealing with "all natural" approach!  But hey if that's what their method is - more power to them.  Out of a flock of 100 chickens they might get 2 or 3 genetic survivors but for me, I don't play roulette with flock health.

My consolation is that the sweet bird (NOT a Silkie) reached my destination where his maladies were addressed immediately and he's a beautiful bird (he was sent to me in error--long story).  I found him a new home but on another BYC thread if someone wants him as breeder stock (his original intent) I can retrieve him if there is interest in him.  He is such a love, walks up to us, stands still to let us bend down and pick him up -- but alas! we're not zoned for cockerels!

I'm in agreeanc on the natural path. Diamataceuos earth apparently is the new ' cure ' for all diseases.
If your roo was suffering CRD he most definitely should not be used as a breeder. Those that survive mycoplasma INfectious laryngotracheltis or coryza will be carriers and are prone to relapse.

 

[Sylvester017]

you are right about that!! I honestly don't care to spend any ( or even all my money on any animal in need of vet care but I have no money right now to take the poor little guy in!! Last weeks vet bill ended up $960.00 to get my two Persian cats put under n shaved and flea meds, de worm then for that baby chick I had to put down. It upsets me I don't have a vet like yours!! My vet is blue pearl avian n exotics ER and they never once told me they could take a decal sample for tests to run on any of my birds I brought in so now I'm not so sure if Its the best place to go to.

it's hard to find a vet that takes chickens in Pete Florida! Anyways thanks for the input !!

Just a thought - Look into vet insurance. I don't know exactly how it works but if you find a vet you really like for your birds inquire at their office. I don't live in an expensive part of our area so insurance with our vet isn't necessary. But for some areas the cost of living can be high and insurance might be a good way to go for pets. I hear some people pay $60-65 for a vet visit and medicines and procedures are extra. We only pay $35 a visit with meds/procedures as extra. Emergencies with pets is never opportune financially which also is why insurance might be good. Some people are breeders and have come to diagnose and treat their own birds but some people only have a few hens for eggs/pets and haven't acquired the expertise to do their own medical treatments.

 

[Sylvester017]

I'm in agreeanc on the natural path. Diamataceuos earth apparently is the new ' cure ' for all diseases.

If your roo was suffering CRD he most definitely should not be used as a breeder. Those that survive mycoplasma INfectious laryngotracheltis or coryza will be carriers and are prone to relapse.

Ha-ha! Thank you for pointing that out about DE! It is sold all over the place and it is absolutely useless except to make money for manufacturers at exhorbitant prices on top of that! You know me well enough to know how much I research and research, etc, and DE is at the top of the list of useless remedies along with ACV and garlic water. I could list some websites to support the pros and cons of each but the cons outweigh the pros in the intelligent presentations I've come across.

The breed that our boy happens to be is a bit rare and his breed in general has reportedly been prone to CRD symptoms from the research I've done - and efforts are being made to improve diversity so to lose him as a breeder would be a shame. But that makes his new home all the better for him as it will consist of rescued cocks/cockerels and rescued battery hens. I think he'll have a good new home and won't become anyone's dinner either! We'll have the advantage of visiting him too!

 

[Fancychooklady]

Ha-ha!  Thank you for pointing that out about DE!  It is sold all over the place and it is absolutely useless except to make money for manufacturers at exhorbitant prices on top of that!  You know me well enough to know how much I research and research, etc, and DE is at the top of the list of useless remedies along with ACV and garlic water.  I could list some websites to support the pros and cons of each but the cons outweigh the pros in the intelligent presentations I've come across.

The breed that our boy happens to be is a bit rare and his breed in general has reportedly been prone to CRD symptoms from the research I've done - and efforts are being made to improve diversity so to lose him as a breeder would be a shame.  But that makes his new home all the better for him as it will consist of rescued cocks/cockerels and rescued battery hens.  I think he'll have a good new home and won't become anyone's dinner either!  We'll have the advantage of visiting him too!

Mycoplasma is carried through the egg and transmitted through cross contact and even on your shoes. I can see no benefit in using a bird , no matter what breed , in a breeding program if all you are doing is proliferating disease.

 

[Sylvester017]

Mycoplasma is carried through the egg and transmitted through cross contact and even on your shoes. I can see no benefit in using a bird , no matter what breed , in a breeding program if all you are doing is proliferating disease.

Yes, I know, and it's a shame too because the breed is so rare. If he wasn't shipped with his immunity already compromised with round worms and cocci he probably never would've exhibited CRD symptoms. His traveling companion (a different breed) was hardier and never exhibited symptoms.

In research I came across information that said about 95% of U.S. backyard flocks have CRD and may never exhibit symptoms yet one day a chicken simply can drop over dead from it without ever showing symptoms - while another hardier bird may be immune to CRD symptoms all their life. It was suggested to me to use Denagard for 5 days once every month as a prevention for symptom outbreak yet a long-time breeder shared with me that it doesn't work so I never purchased it. My vet wasn't too keen on using a product for the whole flock when I have only one Silkie prone to it while the others never exhibited symptoms - she is my smallest yet spunkiest chicken and we take extra precautions with her in inclement weather which can bring out her symptoms - we managed to avoid an incident with her this season.

Chickens are susceptible to so many maladies for which there are no "cures" or vaccines. And now there's the new AI strain in the U.S. that's causing 1000s upon 1000s of poultry deaths especially throughout the Midwest States. What's frustrating is that the migrating waterfowl carry the AI but don't succumb to it themselves - just carriers - at least that's what the news reports say.

I get requests for "fresh eggs" from people but I don't breed or sell eggs or meat. I just simply advise that my hens "aren't laying right now" and it avoids giving out long explanations.

 

[Fancychooklady]

Yes, I know, and it's a shame too because the breed is so rare.  If he wasn't shipped with his immunity already compromised with round worms and cocci he probably never would've exhibited CRD symptoms.  His traveling companion (a different breed) was hardier and never exhibited symptoms. 

In research I came across information that said about 95% of U.S. backyard flocks have CRD and may never exhibit symptoms yet one day a chicken simply can drop over dead from it without ever showing symptoms - while another hardier bird may be immune to CRD symptoms all their life.  It was suggested to me to use Denagard for 5 days once every month as a prevention for symptom outbreak yet a long-time breeder shared with me that it doesn't work so I never purchased it.  My vet wasn't too keen on using a product for the whole flock when I have only one Silkie prone to it while the others never exhibited symptoms - she is my smallest yet spunkiest chicken and we take extra precautions with her in inclement weather which can bring out her symptoms - we managed to avoid an incident with her this season.

Chickens are susceptible to so many maladies for which there are no "cures" or vaccines.  And now there's the new AI strain in the U.S. that's causing 1000s upon 1000s of poultry deaths especially throughout the Midwest States.  What's frustrating is that the migrating waterfowl carry the AI but don't succumb to it themselves - just carriers - at least that's what the news reports say.

I get requests for "fresh eggs" from people but I don't breed or sell eggs or meat.  I just simply advise that my hens "aren't laying right now" and it avoids giving out long explanations. 

Your eggs would be fine for consumption if it weren't for the antibiotics, CRD is not a zoonotic disease. It's true that some birds won't display notable symptoms but the disease will run its course through the flock and effect egg production. The disease is transmitted vertically through the egg from generation to generation. Ideally people with diseased birds should either cull or operate a ' closed flock ' no birds in , no birds out. Whilst people are treating birds and then selling them on and infecting other flocks , it will remain a problem. While raising chickens has become ' the in thing ' unfortunately responsible husbandry has not.