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Siting a coop on concrete or rock

mew5280

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Mar 19, 2020
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This is my first experience with chickens and I am getting ready to put up a coop and run in my yard. I have 4 chicks that are 2 and 3 weeks old. I can't do much myself and will have to buy pre-made or hire someone so trying to keep costs down as much as possible. There is a coop builder in my area who makes very sturdy coops for the weather and predators (Colorado) and he delivers and is reasonably priced so will hopefully get a coop from him. For the run, I may do what a neighbor has done and purchase a dog kennel (walk-in) and cover the top with hardware cloth. Or buy one that has the top already covered. I would rather spend less money but this seems simplest and works for her.

My biggest decision is where to put it in the yard. I'm leaning toward a huge concrete pad that is already in my yard or an area of river rock in the back of my yard. The grass areas of my yard are all covered by underground sprinkler and I have considered having the sprinkler lines dug up and re-routed by the concrete and rock areas would be easier to control anything from digging under and getting into the coop.

Concrete: My idea for siting on the concrete would be to put the coop inside a secure fenced enclosure, walk-in, 10 x 10 or larger. Then I would like to fill the bottom with possibly a layer of dirt (because I have a huge pile of it from another project) and then a layer of sand OR skip to dirt and just use sand? I envisioned having someone build a bottomless sandbox that would keep all this inside the fence but I have no idea if this would really work. Also, wondering about drainage. In heavy rain, I can imagine mud and sand mixing and seeping out under the "sand box" idea.

River Rock: This area of the yard is not completely level but I think there's a spot that would work. It's in the back of the yard behind two huge trees so wouldn't be very visible from my house which I don't like but that's minor. The rock is pretty deep and has been there awhile (I bought this house like this so speculating). I like that it's a little more flexible than concrete and drainage would be much better. Not sure if I could fill with sand as I mentioned above? Any ideas on this?

Grass: A bigger project would be to site it in a grassy area, knowing the grass wouldn't be there after awhile but that's fine, I just have to move the sprinkler lines.

Sorry this is so long but does anyone have any ideas on the above? As I'm sure you know, once I do this, I'm probably not going to be able to move it!

Photos of the yard included. Oh and code for my area says I have to have a 5 foot easement from property lines. I originally had what I thought was a perfect spot between my house and the neighbors but there would be no easement.
 

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I have 5 buildings for chickens. 4 are elevated with wood floors and one is on concrete. Given your situation, I would put it on the concrete pad. That will insure nothing can dig in. Concrete is also easier to do a deep clean on each year. I use pine shavings for bedding in all the buildings and works quite well on the concrete floor. You may be able to get away with sand but it is too humid for that here. The sand would hold moisture and get too hard in a severe winter here.
I would probably get the coop builder guy to make one for you. I'm sure it will be less money for what you get than with a prefab coop. You can also customize it to your needs. Prefab waste too much money on materials for more next boxes than birds the coop would hold.
4 chickens will never need more than 2 nest boxes. Exterior nest boxes save on coop space but take more construction time and materials. I wouldn't put a fence around the building, That is a waste of material and time to secure a solid building. I would just take the run straight out from the side of the building that has the chicken door on it. Then have a man door on a side accessible from outside the run.
One of my buildings has a run that is a chain link dog run but I already had that so didn't have to buy a new one.
 
I wanted to add that in the building with a concrete floor, I have it portioned off into 3 areas and I put down a piece of 3/4" plywood on the concrete before I put down the shavings because that is where I normally raise chicks and it adds a bit of insulation to the concrete which will get cold in winter. I can always pull it up when mucking out the coop, pressure wash the floor and put it back when things are dry.
I would also like to make you aware of this section of the site.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/categories/chicken-coops.12/There are a lot of good ideas and things you may want to include in your coop design. Many of the coops have bills of materials for your builder.
 
That's awesome! What part of the Lou? This is my original hometown as well but I've lived all over. I grew up in North city but we had a farm between Fredericktown and Ironton for cattle, hogs, horses and pheasant. And another smaller one in Black Jack for fruits, vegetables and chickens. That's the city I live in now - in the burbs.
I've been to CO more times than I can count. Mostly in winter for skiing.
 
I have 2 coops: one is on a concrete pad I poured and the other was a reused cattle loafing shed on 1/2 on dirt and 1/2 on concrete. The concrete is the way to go IMHO. I attached the coop to the cattle shed, and built a 600sqft run attached to he coop. Although I free range most of the day (6am-8pm), they do use the run during bad weather or when there are a lot of predators around. I would suggest you have the contractor come out and take a look. Draw up a sketch of what you are wanting, and go over the specifics with him

We do the deep litter method for bedding. I put 5 bales of pine shavings in the coop then add organic matter (hay, straw, pine straw, etc) every week or so. after 6 months, I clean it out and start fresh. I've not had any issues with cold and concrete with my chickens. you won't need too many nest boxes. Of the 29 hens I have, they only use 2 of the 4 I have. Occasionally they will lay under the poop board in the corner or in one of my rabbit barns on the hay.

inside the coop before bedding. I suggest adding a poop board
inside coop.jpg
 
That's awesome! What part of the Lou? This is my original hometown as well but I've lived all over. I grew up in North city but we had a farm between Fredericktown and Ironton for cattle, hogs, horses and pheasant. And another smaller one in Black Jack for fruits, vegetables and chickens. That's the city I live in now - in the burbs.
I've been to CO more times than I can count. Mostly in winter for skiing.
I grew up in West County, I have a sister in Manchester, a niece in the city, never experienced farm life though when I did family history recently, many descendents farmed in Illinois and Missouri, I think it's in me! I love Colorado but my heart belongs to Missouri.
 
I covered my dog kennel run with galvanized roofing, supported with EMT conduit spanning the kennel. That keeps the water out and even more importantly, the snow.
I've had to go in with a heavy snow load and prop up the roof with 2X4 posts.
Bottom line is, don't plan your coop in good weather, plan it with a heavy snowfall or during/after a heavy rain.
 
I covered my dog kennel run with galvanized roofing, supported with EMT conduit spanning the kennel. That keeps the water out and even more importantly, the snow.
I've had to go in with a heavy snow load and prop up the roof with 2X4 posts.
Bottom line is, don't plan your coop in good weather, plan it with a heavy snowfall or during/after a heavy rain.
Things I am JUST starting to consider. We do not get much rain here but we do get snow, not always heavy but sometimes. It is SUPER windy here and especially where my house is located so I'm taking that into consideration as well.
 

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