1. joneus

    joneus Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Do I have to use them if I'm building directly on a perfectly level, completely intact, 2' thick concrete pad? I wasnt going to use them, but the concrete pad stays damp because its in the shade most of the time during the summer. Now I'm wondering if I should have the ventilation under there? OTOH, I dont want to have to worry about something (an opossum or any other rodent, for example) deciding to live under there which means I'd have to find a way to secure hardware cloth under the coop.
     
  2. joneus

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    Also- I've seen a few pics where people have used OSB for walls. Will a few coats of paint be enough to protect it until I have a chance to put the shingles on? Do cedar shingles need Tyvek under them?
     
  3. jamband

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    if you are using osb i would use advantech or home advantage (same thing) as it hold up better to moisture. if not use an exterior ply.


    as for the skids....what are you doing floor wise in the coop just bedding? I would tend to say not to use skid. that concrete is damp from the tree droppings and shade I assume? once you roof a coop thats not an issue ........but either way I would skip the skids. put down some tar paper or sheet metal between the wood frame and the concrete because it will cause the wood to rot from moisture transfer..
     
  4. joneus

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    Quote:Floor wise, I've got a subfloor made out of pressure treated 2x4's and 1/2" plywood which, right now, is sitting on the concrete. The concrete is damp mostly because my whole yard is damp. I live under a forest of 80' trees and nothing ever completely dries out after the trees leaf out. Of course, the 7 solid days of rain we had almost a week ago isnt helping things either!
     
  5. jamband

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    you should be fine.....will you be walking in it alot? if yes 3/4 ply maybe a better idea
     
  6. joneus

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    Quote:No, I've designed it so I should be able to clean it and access the food and water containers from the doorway. I'm losing usable wall space with a double dutch door, but its worth it to not make the neighbors kid walk into the coop if I go away for a few days, kwim?
     
  7. patandchickens

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    First, is the ENTIRE concrete slab going to be contained in the coop. If not -- if some of it sticks out around the edges -- then you can expect to have water coming in under the walls as a perpetual problem. There are products you can buy to put under the sills of the walls to try to prevent this but BYC users have had very mixed and IMO rather unencouraging results with 'em so I would not hold my breath.

    Really, if the concrete is wet, IMO the best solution is a) if you won't be covering the entire slab with the coop (or with a roof, anyhow) then make a raised coop so there is at least 8" and preferably more like 14"+ of open space underneath it; or b) if you WILL be covering the entire slab with the coop (or with coop plus roofed run) then prep and sealer-treat the concrete and you will be good to go. In the latter case, you would either build on p/t skids if it's intended to be a movable coop, or more usually you would simply do normal stud-wall construction, ideally shooting a coupla bolts thru the sill to anchor it to the slab in case of wind.

    A plywood subfloor on 2x4s is likely to become a mouse farm as soon as some lucky mouse finds its way in (they only need the tiniest gap...) and unless you used ground-contact-rated p/t 2x4s and marine plywood I would expect it to start to rot and soften within a few years, probably less than five anyway. If you've already built it and just with normal lumber, I would suggest that if you want to get some reasonable lifespan out of this thing, it'd be highly worth the aggravation of jacking the whole coop up, putting suitable-thickness floor joists underneath (I don't know what size your coop is, but 2x4 is likely not to cut it, at least not if you want longevity and structural soundness), and putting it on cinderblocks or treated-wood supports or something like that to ensure it is a reasonable height above the slab. Then rig some form of anchor so it can't blow off.

    JMHO, good luck, have fun,

    Pat
     

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