I am so frustrated with Welp hatchery right now! I have always had nothing but great luck and good experiences with them until this last shipment. I ordered 2 males and 10 females of the same breed. I ended up with 16 total so four extra. And its been a few months and I ended up with 12 males and 4 females. I can't imagine they got the sexing that wrong! I'm convinced they read my order backwards and sent 10 males and 2 females. I contact them and tell them I can send photos if needed. They tell me they need photos, so I run around catching 10 little roosters and snap some pics of the male group and a one of the female group. There is an obvious difference in posture, tail, and comb color and size between the photos. Two weeks and a bunch of chicken feed later I finally hear back. They spoke to someone from the hatchery who says they are a slow developing breed so it can make it confusing when they are growing and that they are sure they are all females. What?! why would a slow developing breed have way bigger redder combs then the fast developing breeds that were sent in the order? Why would I think they are roosters if they are slow to develop? That answer makes zero sense. Then they tell me to wait a few months and send more photos...do they not know what its like to have let alone feed 10 extra growing giant breed roosters for a few months. I also informed them that these "pullets" had long pointy glossy saddle feathers, which they completely disregarded in their email response and said nothing about. So I paid for 10 hens and got practically all males, that I have fed for months, grown attached to, and now I need to either spend hours trying to give them away to non-meat homes (practically impossible especially this time of year) for a total loss, have a shortage in laying hens this spring and a loss of egg customers since I will be short on eggs, or pay someone to process them in the middle of a Northern USA winter. I have raised and breed various breeds of chickens for years, ordering commercial layers from Welp for years as well. And this is what you get for being a loyal customer. Long response times, followed by being told you don't know anything about chickens and that I need to keep feeding my huge combed saddle feathered "pullets" for a few more months and then maybe they will change their mind and give me a credit so I can get what I actually ordered. I guess I should just shut up and enjoy my rare crowing eggless "hens" courtesy of good ol' Welp Hatchery. Such a big company and they can't refund 10 chicks, when they were wrong. Ridiculous. I can promise you that they have lost a very good customer. This concludes my rant.