Son's hen has severely swollen crop, what do we do?

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1) What type of bird , age and weight.
White Faced Black Spanish hen, 5 months old.

2) What is the behavior, exactly.
She moves her head around in peculiar ways, sometimes like she's trying to swallow something large, other times like she's trying to shake off something around her head.
Also, her breast feels very fluid-filled and squishy.
Her beak is covered in something that looks like wet crumble. She's sneezing.

3) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.
No.

4) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.
I don't know.

5) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
Eating lay crumble and whatever she finds free-ranging. Drinks water from puddles. She won't stay in the chicken yard and drink and eat with them.

6) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
Don't know.

7) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
None.

10) Describe the housing/bedding in use
She roosts in trees: orange tree, pencil tree, and ash tree.



As I mentioned, her breast is swollen and feels like it's fluid-filled. I can squish it around.

She had been laying eggs, really large ones, for a few weeks. She's a white egg-layer. Now we find eggs of that same size, but they're brown, so we assumed another hen started laying, and that a snake was eating her eggs. It is possible though that she has stopped laying, since it's been 4 days of not getting her eggs. Could she start laying brown eggs???

When my DS holds her now, she doesn't seem as relaxed as she used to. She acts like I would if I were trying to swallow an orange whole.

We just pulled her out of the tree and she has stuff all over her nose and beak that looks like wet crumble. She's sneezing. When I turn her upside-down, wet lay crumble comes out. Nothing smells bad at all. The last time I turned her upside-down and the stuff came out onto a towel, I looked closely and saw crumble, one grass blade, and crumble-colored water.

DH mowed last Thursday. I was thinking eating lots of grass could be the cause, but when I squish around her crop, I feel nothing solid. It's like holding a baseball, but filled with water.
 
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Thanks!

We did a baking soda flush on her, but there seemed to be very little flush. She didn't have fun with that at all, and her crop seems only a little smaller.

She's sleeping now with DS. I hope tomorrow is better.
 
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If her crop is only a little smaller, then you either didn't "flush" everything out or you let her gorge/drink a ton afterward. After a correct baking soda flush, the crop should be EMPTY and essentially flat. At least until the bird eats/drinks a large amount again.

Try massaging the crop upward to expel everything that is in there. The baking soda water should help "loosen" packed stuff, but if it's liquidy and squishy you should be able to get a lot out without it. If you hold the bird almost upside-down and massage the crop upward, they can't tend to re-swallow the stuff quickly. But if a lot starts coming out you need to take breaks so the bird can breath. Think about what it would be like for YOU to be barfing, you'd want to barf a little, then breath, then barf some more... (well, not that you'd want to barf at all, but the point is you want to breath in between heaves!)

Keep us updated - if you were near me I'd come over and help you, I've done a lot of crop palpating and flushing!!!
 
Hi, we have the same squishy swollen crop but not the other symptoms you describe. Ours is abouth the size of a tennis ball, makes me think of a water balloon. She still seems to be getting along OK (not quite as spunky as normal) but it is getting larger. How do we do the baking soda flush?
 
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Here's the instructions I was given:


Here it is - please let me know how it's going. She definitely needs that stuff out.
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very simple
mix the 1 pt of warm water
1/2 cup of baking soda
mix good and fill a child'sd ear syringe with the baking soda water

put the chicken on the table in front of you
if there is some one to hold the chicken it is easier to do

now take the filled syringe and put it in the back of the throat of the chicken
ex[ell all the water
now lay the syringe down
take your hand and bring it up tightly against the crop of the chicken
all he while pushing on the hand to breing up the spoiled feed etc out of the crop
the chicken will not hold it back but as chickens do not vomit you are the one bringing the spoiled feed out the beak

*****do not turn the chicken upside down******

do the flushing at least three times and let the bird rest
DO NOT FEED IT FOR 24 HRS
let it rest and then only feed it
one sliced of bread soaked in milk
into the milk cut a 1000 mg capsule of Vitamin E and crush 1 tablet of selinium and mix with the soaked bread
feed this twice a day for a week

also have 1 tbsp of apple cider vinegar in qt of water

by now she is getting better

then you can see if she does alright on the crumble chicken feed

DO NOT FEED HER ANY WHOLE OR CRACKED GRAINS ALL THIS TIME
 
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If her crop is only a little smaller, then you either didn't "flush" everything out or you let her gorge/drink a ton afterward. After a correct baking soda flush, the crop should be EMPTY and essentially flat. At least until the bird eats/drinks a large amount again.

Try massaging the crop upward to expel everything that is in there. The baking soda water should help "loosen" packed stuff, but if it's liquidy and squishy you should be able to get a lot out without it. If you hold the bird almost upside-down and massage the crop upward, they can't tend to re-swallow the stuff quickly. But if a lot starts coming out you need to take breaks so the bird can breath. Think about what it would be like for YOU to be barfing, you'd want to barf a little, then breath, then barf some more... (well, not that you'd want to barf at all, but the point is you want to breath in between heaves!)

Keep us updated - if you were near me I'd come over and help you, I've done a lot of crop palpating and flushing!!!

We massaged and massaged, but never felt anything that felt hard, or as if it needed breaking up. Just a water balloon feeling. When she had the baking soda mix in her, we could feel the gas bubbles, but that's about it. I followed the instructions that I just pasted above. How do YOU do it?
I sure wish you lived near me. I'm considering taking her to the post office and sending her your way!
 
Did you get all of the stuff out with the flush? If so, you shouldn't have a swollen, water-balloon feeling crop afterward.

Edited to add: Some people say you can/should hold them upside-down when expelling stuff from the crop. Some people say you shouldn't. The first advice I saw was to hold them upside-down, so I went with that - no problems accomplishing the goal that way!

My bird had a "pendulous" crop, and it was never going to work right. She ended up dying, but I did nurse her for almost 2 months.
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We didn't get much out at all. I expected a lot more. Her crop felt only a little smaller afterward. After three rounds, she was exhausted (plus, it was nighttime), so we let her sleep. She didn't eat or drink anything at all afterward. She only had the baking soda solution.

This morning, she gobbled down some applesauce, and I need to buy some yogurt and other things for her.

This afternoon, she gobbled down some wet lay crumble mixed with Poly-Vi-Sol without iron.

I've had a cup of water and ACV in her cage since this morning, too.

Her crop feels pretty much the same way it did last night, a little less. She's not sneezing any more, because the level must not be backing into her throat.
 

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