State Of Ohio Issue 2 (READ BEFORE VOTING)

[keljonma]

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[Quail_Antwerp]

You know, as WE THE PEOPLE, we can vote NO for everything.

Even if out of state groups try to pass legislations controlling Ohio agriculture, we have the right to vote against them, too.

The government cannot have control of anything if we don't give it to them.

Becca, iHere is the list of who will serve on the Board.

The Director of the Ohio Department of Agriculture
Three family farmers (Why only THREE farmers?!)
Two veterinarians (one of whom is the state veterinarian),
A food safety expert
A representative of a local humane society
Two members representing statewide farm organizations
The dean of an Ohio agriculture college
Two members representing Ohio consumers

Why should there be any Humane Society Rep on the board? Give that spot to another Farmer...or six.

We don't want the Humane Society to have any say IMO regarding livestock/farming issues. Period.

If they take the Humane Society Rep off, they'd have my vote. Otherwise, I'll be voting NO to everything every time.

Local, State, or National.

 

[tagra123]

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Good points. We already have the Ohio Department of Agriculture.

I'll be voting no too. I am of the opinion that it is not a board, PETA, organization, or any other group to tell me what I can do on my own property with my own property. I am not about to freely hand over a freedom because of fear of what might happen. I hope that OHIO voters send a loud and clear message that this is not the governments business.

I am a small business owner and do not want the government involved in any more areas of my life than is necessary. It is naive to think that the boards decisions will not trickle down and affect all of us sooner or later.



I fear that if this passes this just opens the door for the state and county to start mandating permits to own livestock to help pay for the cost of the program.

I'm sure some will say that requiring permits it will never happen.

I have friends that I have talked to that are voting on both sides. A few of my friends are voting yes because the Farm Bureau thinks it's the right thing. I don't understand that sort of decision making -- it has enabled many interest groups to gain too much power.


The fear of organization or PETA should not be the sole reason for voting for this issue. The language has already be disguised "Safe Local Food" and who is not for that?

Rather than adding 9 more people and their staff to the government payroll, why doesn't someone come up with a way to eliminate some government jobs.

My frame of mind is this. If it makes government bigger or asks for more money I am voting no. I just don't have any extra to continue to give.

Enough!

A new link was added to the first post.

http://lawdork.net/2009/10/14/ohios-issue-2-subverting-democracy-with-democracy/

"...... The whole thing is a picture-perfect example of subverting the Democratic process — under the guise of democracy. The ballot language sounds like it mightn’t be that bad, informing voters that the Board would:

be comprised of thirteen Ohio residents including representatives of Ohio family farms, farming organizations, food safety experts, veterinarians, consumers, the dean of the agriculture department at an Ohio college or university and a county humane society representative.

What it doesn’t say is that 10 of the 13 board members are appointed by the governor, which means they could hold whatever view the governor desires that his or her appointees hold. The amendment says nothing about terms of the appointees and, as such, they would serve at the pleasure of the governor and could be replaced at any time. Also, technically, the governor holds 11 of the 13 spots, as the chair of the board is the director of the Agriculture Department, a gubernatorial appointment..............."

 

[Quail_Antwerp]

Has it occurred to anyone that most of the farmers in support of Issue 2 are the big business farmers that already have money and raise a lot of food per year? I see issue 2 hurting the small hobby farmers more than anything.

If they come and inspect my farm, where I'm raising about 60 chickens, 2 calves, 1 Alpaca, and 14 rabbits, and they say my set up isn't up to their standards, they will me shut me down. I won't have the money to "upgrade" and if Issue 2 passes, the board can get a ruling against anyone who doesn't meet their "standards" to no longer own animals...ever.

My husband and I feel like this "board" is a form of "CPS" for farms.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

Go ahead a vote no, then don't come here and cry when the organization and PETA come to Ohio and force restrictive legislation that is not conducive to livestock production.

This is a no more than the people of Ohio taking their fate into their own hands.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

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Yep those big bad farmers that work hard every day to help feed the US and the world. How dare they try to take the offensive away from organization, PETA, and other Animal Rights Whackos.

 

[bigredfeather]

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They are not targeting or considering regulating small hobby farms. This is intended for large scale agribusinesses. I spoke with our state rep last night, and he assured me of this.

If you have any specific questions regarding this issue, please post and I will direct them to him. I have gotten to know him, and he is very passionate about this. He grew up on a large farm, and still has family that is in farming large scale. He was a major contributor in getting the bill on the ballot this year to get in front of the organization. He told me last night the organization has been successful in 11 states out of the 11 they have gone to. If they get something passed next year in Ohio (assuming Issue 2 fails), next stop, Washington DC, where they will try and institute Federal Regulations. I don't think anyone wants that.

If you are against Issue 2, that is your right. If the organization is successful in coming years, I hope you like imported meat, because that is where a lot of our meat will be coming from down the road.

 

[bigredfeather]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

Go ahead a vote no, then don't come here and cry when the organization and PETA come to Ohio and force restrictive legislation that is not conducive to livestock production.

This is a no more than the people of Ohio taking their fate into their own hands.

That is 100% correct.

If organization is successful, you will no longer see chicken for $.79/pound or ground beef for a reasonable price. Prices will skyrocket and then the same people that voted against Issue 2 will be complaining about the high prices.​

 

[Quail_Antwerp]

Thank you, bigredfeather.

My biggest fear is it will force small hobby farmers out of business.

They might be aiming for big farms now, but who's to say they won't later come after the small hobby farmers?

So for those of us who grow the majority of our own food for our own families, you're saying they aren't going to be regulating us?

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

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HSUS and PETA want NO ONE to own livestock. Once they regulate the COmmercial farms they will come after the Backyard crowd.

Jim


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