Stupid Neighbors!!

[melodie_a]

I am SO mad right now at our stupid neighbors! They have a grown daughter who lives a couple of hours away who has a border collie mix demon dog, and usually she isn't here because she is at home.. well I don't know if it is because of the holidays or if her teenage sons have brought the dog here or what but it has been next door a lot lately and it is making me insane!

We have a white german shepherd who we keep contained in OUR yard. He is never outside without us unless he is locked up on our front porch or attached to a lead which he adores because he can lay on the hammock in the sun and just "guard." We never let him roam onto the neighbors property but do they give us that same courtesy? OH no! The worst thing is that this dumb dog doesn't just come onto our property and poop which is really starting to irritate me since we have trained our dog not to go to the bathroom in our front yard but to go behind the house into the end of the field at the edge of the woods to do his business. This dog has the nerve to come into our yard and bark his fool head off at MY family! My husband has said something to them several times but does it do any good at all?? NOPE! Little creep keeps coming back... "oh, we didn't know he was out" WHAT? HOW STUPID ARE YOU? AND HOW STUPID DO YOU THINK I AM?? So, it is freezing here tonight and I let Riot out to go pee which he is allowed to do in a strip of pine trees in front of the house and what happens but this stupid dog which I didn't see comes barrelling towards us barking like a maniac. My hubby is asleep in bed sick and both kids have just gone to bed and my dog can't even pee in peace in his own yard. I gave Riot the command to stop, wait and come and he did so reluctantly because he wasn't happy about this little piece of you know what barking at us in our yard. I was very proud of him, so I grabbed the shovel and chased the dog out of our yard after I put Riot inside and the kid next door come out and looks at me like I am bothering them by chasing the dog back into their yard. Hubby has a bb gun by the front door and I realized tonight that I don't know how to use it. I know how to use the shotgun in the coop but not the bb gun.... guess what I will be learning tomorrow. I didn't go over there tonight because it is 10:30 at night and the neighbor is old, has cancer and has been sick but I am going to go and talk to them tomorrow. I hate to cause trouble because he is really a sick man but I am sorry, this is just not tolerable any longer. She needs to control her mutt, thankfully we lock the chickens up at night so I am not worried about them but I don't trust that dog not to try something with them in the daylight. Grrrrrr... I HATE IRRESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS!!!

Ok, sorry for the long post but I was flaming mad and had to vent! I already had a headache and now my brain feels like it is going to explode.

 

[PineappleMama]

*passes Mel a stiff drink* if nothing else you can toss it in the thing's face.

Eh... kinda like our neighbors... that dern animals makes me WANT a gun... never had much call for one before but I'd really love to get rid of that human biting beast... that animal control let back out mind you... and that the neighbors do nothing to keep in... he can climb or break down the 6' wooden fence... do they keep him penned or tied or find another home... nope, just let it keep getting out and harassing and hurting people.

Maybe I should settle on a BB gun... you lemme know how the training goes...

 

[Muggsmagee]

I have the SAME problem! No joke...almost exactly parallel! When we bought our house my neighbor introduced herself (day of closing) and said she was struggling with her 2nd round of breast cancer. I tolerated a lot of her dog's BS because I thought I was being nice. I put up with it for almost 3 years. Her golden retriever has tried attacking my dogs, my chickens, pees and poops all over our yard, and barks NONSTOP through the night. The neighbor had the audacity to tell me that OUR dogs are ruining HER fence because HER dogs charge at HER fence trying to get at my dogs on MY OWN property!!! She is full of excuses and completely insane. The last straw that broke the camels back was when her dog charged the alpaca fence trying to get at my boys and was running laps around my property barking at them trying to get at them. I screamed out the window for her to "go home" and my neighbor (who was on her porch THE ENTIRE TIME watching her dog and saying "good girl, come"!) told me to "stay out of it!"!!!! I finally flipped my lid and I let the foul language fly! I also called the dog warden and the police. No longer will I play the nice guy and let her walk all over me.

I'm sorry your neighbor has cancer, that does not give the family the right to not pay attention to their dog, and expect that the dog's behavior is acceptable. I just don't get this mentality!

Are there leash laws where you live? I asked the Deputy Sheriff what my rights were. He said I have a right to protect my livestock/family. If I need to dispose of the dog, I can. I don't want to, but I suppose I will if necessary. I think you should give your neighbors a warning before you shoot the dog...even with a BB gun. When we moved into a new house when I was a kid, my little Havanese dog wandered into the neighbors yard...they shot her with a bb gun. The bb penetrated her ribcage...it required surgery. She was a sweet and loving dog, and it was completely unnecessary action on the neighbors part. Speak up for yourself FIRST! It is important you do so.

Good luck. Sorry you have neighbors like mine!

 

[melodie_a]

Thank you... I needed that drink! lol I can't believe that they didn't do anything to a dog that actually bit someone! Wow...

I am planning to go over there tomorrow and talk to them, hubby has talked to them at least twice before and he actually told them last time that we were letting the chickens out and the dog out so they needed to keep him locked up for his own protection. I don't believe my dog would actually hurt the dog because he goes to doggie daycare one day per week, he isn't dog agressive but I am really not sure how he would react to a dog charging him and actually making contact. The dog is a big fraidy cat with a lot of bark when we stomp after him he runs but then he comes right back barking LOUDER! The neighbors two houses down have a big goofy black lab that they let run everywhere loose with no supervision and although that is rather annoying it doesn't bother me quite as bad because she doesn't bark at anything and she doesn't act aggressive in the least. Jut undiciplined.... these are the same neighbors who have a 14 year old blind deaf toy poodle that they let go out by itself to go the bathroom and forgot it was outside.. oops..?? How do you forget a dog in that condition outside?? Poor thing ended up on a neighbors porch 1/2 a mile down the road. She came to our house because she knew we had dogs, and luckily I had seen the man walking around the night before looking for the lost dog. My husband took the dog home and let them know where it was found etc. It was wandering around all night long by itself, it must have been scared to death. I came home the next day and there was the dog wandering down the middle of the road right by itself again. I drove right up to it in the car and it didn't react at all, I scooped it up and took it home AGAIN and told the woman that I found it in the road wandering around. She didn't act like she cared at all, really seemed more irritated that I had interrupted her soaps. People amaze me.

My hubby was a deputy in our county for 12 years and he says that there is no law prohibiting us from shooting it on our property. I just don't want it to come to that. I am such a non-violent person when it comes to animals, that the thought of even shooting at it with a bb gun is very unlike me. I am just so fed up with the fact that we have asked them repeatedly to keep it off of our property and they don't care at all. I am also worried about my kids. I had my two kids and my daughters friend out here today running all around the yard, on Sunday we have family coming with small kids and they may be outside and although the dog runs away right now, a dog that acts this agressive makes me concerned for the safety of the children on my property and of course my chickens. I have 4 and if they scatter, I am not sure that I could protect them all. It just steams me that I feel like we get locked in our house because we can't trust the neighbors. That is crazy. I started running for exercise this past spring and I can only go 1/4 mile down the road because there are neighbors with pitbull uncontained that came after me one afternoon. Scared the dickens out of me, I was almost .5 miles from home with no weapon. Thank goodness he didn't see us until we were pretty far down the road and he finally stopped the chase, I don't know what I would have done if he hadn't. I refuse to be afraid to let my own dog go out to potty in my yard or not be able to let the kids outside to play because of a neighbors dog. It is just crazy.

You made a good point though, I believe that I am going to write a letter in addition to going over there to speak with them giving them notice that in order to protect my property I am willing to use the bb gun if their dog is on my property acting in a threatening manner toward any member of my family including my pets/livestock. Seems stupid to mail a letter to the neighbors but if they have to sign for it then they can't deny that they were made well aware of the situation. The thing that sucks is that it isn't even the neighbor that is the problem, they don't have any animals.. it is the daughter that doesn't even live here that is causing the problem. If she would just keep her dog at her home then there would be no drama at all.

I did throw the shovel down tonight when the teenager came outside to see what was going on, actually threw it against a tree so it made a huge noise and I stomped away cursing the dog. So, he absolutely got the picture that I was not a happy camper. Maybe that paired with my conversation tomorrow will help bring home the message that I am at the end of my patience.

 

[Mattemma]

I would recommend NOT going over since you have done so before. If you have AC or police that will speak to them that is better.They can let your neighbors know of the local laws in your area,and what YOU can do if their dog is on your property(and/or attacking anything).

A bb gun would be considered animal cruelty.You must shoot to kill when it comes to protecting your animals.Even pepper spray is considered cruel,but that is my preference.

If you keep your animals on your property then it will be easier to request the same of others,so make sure they can't say you do the same as them.

If you catch dogs you should call AC to get them if you can. I had a neighbor whose dog was getting lose.The dog came to my place every time.I called AC and he got the dog from the pound.His dog no longer runs loose.Another neighbors husky got loose and bit up my dog.Cost them $400 in vet bills.I did not report them to AC,but there will be no *next chance* for that dog if it returns.

People know that loose pets cause mess,damage,and sometimes death.They know and they do not care.They choose to let them out to roam.Going over and talking to them is just repeating the obvious to them.Either they will get angry at you,or they will promise to control their pet(and will not).

Best wishes dealing with the neighbors/dogs.

I would not do the letter.If someone else does an SSS on them they will go running to the police with your letter.Not that you will get in trouble,but they will just blame you.Sorry you are going through this.People can be so lame.My dogs get crated if they bark too much at the neighbors. I could not imagine letting them do what your neighbors do.We fenced in our backyard pretty much to protect ourselves from roamers.Ofcourse I still get them going in the front yard,so I carry mace now when I get the mail or do yard work.

 

[ga_goat]

My problem with neighabor dogs stopped when I got a wire frame slingshot with the 8mm metal ball ammo from my local flea market ,, it won't kill the dog but 1 or 2 hits and hey won't come back this way , and it's silent .

 

[darkmatter]

Quote:
There’s a story of two suburbanites with nice lawns living next to each other and every morning one of them had to do the morning scoop of “lawn mines” left from the nightly roaming dogs. He got to noticing that his neighbor simply came out with an eye dropper bottle and placed a few drops of some kind of “magic elixir” on each deposit and by the afternoon they were gone! He finally could take it no longer and called his neighbor over to the fence to ask what his secret “magic elixir” was. The neighbor just shrugged his shoulders and said: “Bacon Grease”

 

[sonew123]

Quote:
There’s a story of two suburbanites with nice lawns living next to each other and every morning one of them had to do the morning scoop of “lawn mines” left from the nightly roaming dogs. He got to noticing that his neighbor simply came out with an eye dropper bottle and placed a few drops of some kind of “magic elixir” on each deposit and by the afternoon they were gone! He finally could take it no longer and called his neighbor over to the fence to ask what his secret “magic elixir” was. The neighbor just shrugged his shoulders and said: “Bacon Grease”

thats a good one!!!!

 

[patman75]

Quote:
There’s a story of two suburbanites with nice lawns living next to each other and every morning one of them had to do the morning scoop of “lawn mines” left from the nightly roaming dogs. He got to noticing that his neighbor simply came out with an eye dropper bottle and placed a few drops of some kind of “magic elixir” on each deposit and by the afternoon they were gone! He finally could take it no longer and called his neighbor over to the fence to ask what his secret “magic elixir” was. The neighbor just shrugged his shoulders and said: “Bacon Grease”

 

[Mattemma]

That is good,lol. Will dogs(or other animals) really eat poo with bacon fat on it? Only one way to find out,but I am not testing on my dogs!