I'm not calling this a sumatra yet so lets dont go down that road. But he is the result of the bb red sumatra work. Getting there but still needs some work to finish it up.
Just reposting it for those who asked to see it

Tail still needs some work to get the phoenix influence out and get rid of the lobe color
Plan to use this bird this year to start a gold duckwing sumatra project. He has no sumatra in him, but already has some shape to him, so he should be a good candidate

Just reposting it for those who asked to see it
Tail still needs some work to get the phoenix influence out and get rid of the lobe color
Plan to use this bird this year to start a gold duckwing sumatra project. He has no sumatra in him, but already has some shape to him, so he should be a good candidate