Sumatra Thread!

[championsumatra]

Quote: I have never had any problems with wet pox until now. My flock has always been really healthy. What I am socked about is that only two out of 42 chicken have not got it. I have to be honest it took the vaccine two weeks to come in. And it has been three months sense I have vaccinated. Don't you think they would be really sick by now??
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[raph]

Im quite happy with them so far. A while back i posted a few pictures of some large sumatra hens. One of them is the mother of the chicks, and the other hen is the sister of the mother, and i can see the resembalance of the undecided chick and the sister of the mum. Here is the hen i'm on about.

they have a similar head on them.

i don't think that the undecided chick will be kept.

 

[ramirezframing]

I have never had any problems with wet pox until now. Since this is your first time with it and you hadn't vaccinated for it ever before, it makes me doubt what you said earlier about it being such a problem at shows since you have been showing for 8 to 9 nine years from what you have said. My flock has always been really healthy. What I am socked about is that only two out of 42 chicken have not got it. In your other post you said only 2 hens had gotten it not all but 2, which is it?? And if all had it but 2 why were you trying to sell birds on another forum within a month of saying you had it on here?? That was one thing you were talking bad about people doing at the shows (selling sick birds). I have to be honest it took the vaccine two weeks to come in. And it has been three months sense I have vaccinated. I am guessing that like most people who come across a new sickness with their birds, you posted about it right away (within a week or so) And you posted about this towards the end of September, so that's not 3 months, your math is off again. Don't you think they would be really sick by now??

I hope your birds do recover, but you might want to stop and think before you talk bad about other people for doing something when you have done it as well. And since you can't say what you actually vaccinate for, I take it this fowl pox vaccine is the FIRST time you have vaccinated for anything, so why are you so strongly advocating that everyone vaccinates their birds, when you yourself have not done this?

 

[ramirezframing]

Im quite happy with them so far. A while back i posted a few pictures of some large sumatra hens. One of them is the mother of the chicks, and the other hen is the sister of the mother, and i can see the resembalance of the undecided chick and the sister of the mum. Here is the hen i'm on about.

they have a similar head on them.

i don't think that the undecided chick will be kept.

Let them grow up and then use your SOP and decide who is the best to keep. Good luck

 

[championsumatra]

Quote: Yes it is the first time I have done it, but I will vaccinate for other things but I first need to find out what other things I should be vaccinating for before I vaccinate for something I really don't need. and I was not talking bad about anybody at all.

 

[troyer]

I have never had any problems with wet pox until now. My flock has always been really healthy. What I am socked about is that only two out of 42 chicken have not got it. I have to be honest it took the vaccine two weeks to come in. And it has been three months sense I have vaccinated. Don't you think they would be really sick by now??

If the 2 that didn't get wet pox are a male and female, be sure to breed those 2 together this year and get as many chicks as possible from them, those two will pass on a wet pox resistant gene, which will be better for you and everybody that gets any eggs or chicks from you in the future.
It is not a wise idea to breed from fowl that get a disease easily and especially if they can't get over it without using medication. There are Sumatra breeders that will not buy birds if they know that the breeder vaccinates his fowl on a regular basis. I know it would be extremely difficult to get rid of 40 Sumatras and keep only the 2 that didn't get sick, but in the long run that would definitely be a great asset to your breeding program, not only would it be a great asset to your breeding program, but also to the Sumatra breeders around you and to those you sell your fowl too.
Vaccinations do not always make fowl get sick, but I have a feeling that we would have a lot less sick chickens if all of us would not breed from fowl that have gotten sick. I have Sumatras here that have never been sick from anything, if they had showed anything at all I would not have bred from them. That's my goal in breeding my fowl and I will not intentionally buy chickens from others that don't do the same.

I'm not trying to make you look bad, I'm just sharing my chicken breeding experience, so that others don't need to make the same mistakes that I have made in breeding from fowl that need vaccinations and medications to stay alive.

Keep marching ya'll!

 

[ramirezframing]

If the 2 that didn't get wet pox are a male and female, be sure to breed those 2 together this year and get as many chicks as possible from them, those two will pass on a wet pox resistant gene, which will be better for you and everybody that gets any eggs or chicks from you in the future.
It is not a wise idea to breed from fowl that get a disease easily and especially if they can't get over it without using medication. There are Sumatra breeders that will not buy birds if they know that the breeder vaccinates his fowl on a regular basis. I know it would be extremely difficult to get rid of 40 Sumatras and keep only the 2 that didn't get sick, but in the long run that would definitely be a great asset to your breeding program, not only would it be a great asset to your breeding program, but also to the Sumatra breeders around you and to those you sell your fowl too.
Vaccinations do not always make fowl get sick, but I have a feeling that we would have a lot less sick chickens if all of us would not breed from fowl that have gotten sick. I have Sumatras here that have never been sick from anything, if they had showed anything at all I would not have bred from them. That's my goal in breeding my fowl and I will not intentionally buy chickens from others that don't do the same.

I'm not trying to make you look bad, I'm just sharing my chicken breeding experience, so that others don't need to make the same mistakes that I have made in breeding from fowl that need vaccinations and medications to stay alive.

Keep marching ya'll!

Very good points Troyer

 

[ramirezframing]

How are things going for you and your birds Troyer?

 

[4Hgirl]

Our hatch looks like total flop. One chick tried to hatch and we even heard it chirp last night then this morning it dead, never made it out. And other three aren't doing anything.

 

[ramirezframing]

Our hatch looks like total flop. One chick tried to hatch and we even heard it chirp last night then this morning it dead, never made it out. And other three aren't doing anything.

Sorry about that, hope you try again and have better luck.