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[championsumatra]

I would get the fowl pox vaccine. Wet pox it is more common than a lot of them.

 

[ramirezframing]

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Some feed stores carry them as do some hatcheries. I don't know what vaccines you would do for showing, but there's is the merks vaccine that is done on day old chicks. Also don't know how old the chicks should be for the fowl pox vaccine either. Good luck with your hatch.

 

[championsumatra]

Quote: You can vaccinate them at any age including a day old chick. Trust me fowl pox is the most common disease in a show. Most of the time people are clueless of fowl pox especially a newbee. For all we know they could be showing a chicken that has wet pox or a very small case of dry pox. When you have wet pox you don't know until you look inside of the mouth. Dry Pox looks like a infection until it spreads throughout most of the body. Or people don't care about anything but winning so they bring a infected bird.

 

[NYREDS]

You can vaccinate them at any age including a day old chick. Trust me fowl pox is the most common disease in a show. Most of the time people are clueless of fowl pox especially a newbee. For all we know they could be showing a chicken that has wet pox or a very small case of dry pox. When you have wet pox you don't know until you look inside of the mouth. Dry Pox looks like a infection until it spreads throughout most of the body. Or people don't care about anything but winning so they bring a infected bird.

Anyone planning to vaccinate, a practice I don't suggest, should fact check this information. Some vaccines must be given to newly hatched chicks only while other vacccines can be/are given later. That's according to Garden Way Publishing's "Raising Poultry The Modern Way".
I have never vaccinated at all believing that breeding for disease resistance is a better way to go. BTW-in 50+ years of raising & showing poultry I've never had a case of Fowl Pox so I don't think it's all that common.

 

[ramirezframing]

Funny, the fowl pox pictures I seen online and the one time I seen it on live birds at a friends house didn't look like an infection. It looked more like scabs from a rooster fight to me. I also find it hard to believe that it's the MOST common disease at a show since it is easily see-able during the checks that I have heard of being done at the opening to the shows before any bird goes in. I would think a disease like mg or a respiratory disease would be more of a problem. There are sings to look for other than just inside of the birds mouth with wet pox.

 

[ramirezframing]

Anyone planning to vaccinate, a practice I don't suggest, should fact check this information. Some vaccines must be given to newly hatched chicks only while other vacccines can be/are given later. That's according to Garden Way Publishing's "Raising Poultry The Modern Way".
I have never vaccinated at all believing that breeding for disease resistance is a better way to go. BTW-in 50+ years of raising & showing poultry I've never had a case of Fowl Pox so I don't think it's all that common.

20 plus years here and not one vaccinated chick/ bird and I had never even heard of fowl pox till last year when my friend had it pop up in her birds. Does one have to vaccinate a bird to show?

 

[championsumatra]

Quote: Do you mean vaccateing them twice with the same stuff or with a different vaccine?

Anyways I read in my fowl pox vaccine directions that it is ok to give day old chicks the pox vaccine by it's self just to make that clear. I had to vaccinated every thing including my chicks so I read it very carefully. You would be surprised on how many people have caught fowl pox Just from going to a show and I listed some good reasons why. Oh I also forgot to mention that some people will sell sick or contagious birds at the show. I have seen some really sick birds be sold before.

Quote: She or he did say it looked like peak marks, but she/he also said it looked like infected peck marks. When it gets in the eye it really dose look like a bad infection. Keep reading it and you will see what I am talking about.

 

[4Hgirl]

On Jeffers web site they sell two vaccines for fowl pox. One is for chicks at a day old and good for adult birds as well. The other is strictly for adult birds. It mentions that if you vaccinate chicks with the first one then you must booster with the other. The vials are good for up to 1000 birds and cost $10 each. The Merek's vax is $20 also for a 1000 birds. Plus shipping and the cooler and ice packs. That means I'd be spending a lot for only the couple chicks that are hatching. The vials are only good for 24 hrs after opening and reconstituting. And as a RN I understand being vaccinated does not always work.
To the breeders and long timers-can you give a rationale as to why you don't vaccinate?
I'm trying to make a choice and would love your experienced input to help make my decision. Thank you!

 

[4Hgirl]

20 plus years here and not one vaccinated chick/ bird and I had never even heard of fowl pox till last year when my friend had it pop up in her birds. Does one have to vaccinate a bird to show? 

I have not heard a chicken needs a vaccine to show as dogs do for instance. I was mentioning showing as a point that we will be taking chickens off our property and they could be exposed to disease.

 

[ramirezframing]

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I have seen what it looks like in the eye and the mouth. This is how I know that they show other sings of wet pox instead of just the inside of the mouth. And I have read enough to know that QTing a bird with fowl pox doesn't protect the rest of the flock from getting it, since it is carried by biting insects.