Swollen vent. Please help.

cheeri

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Sep 3, 2019
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I have a chick, about 6 or 8 weeks old.
We named it Tobi. (We're not sure about the gender but it looks just like it's mom!)

Tobi hasn't eat or drink much for a week now and gotten skinny, to the point where I can feel the breast bone more than usual. The crop is always empty.
But today Tobi ate a little bit of boiled eggs and wet feed. There's finally a crop!
When it poops, it's little to none. I saw it trying to defecate a few times and nothing comes out, I'm really worried and scared.
It always clean it's feather after pooping but I think it's been scratching it because when I wipe it, there's small blood on the tissues.

On Wednesday (3/10/21), my sisters and I gave Tobi and it's flock corid.
Tobi was given de-wormer, safeguard, and added nutridrench in the water on Thursday (3/11/21) up to today + quarantined after we noticed the weird poop and swollen/puffy and bloody vent so we sprayed vetericyn.


Tobi was fine and active a week ago but this started happening after my dad took Tobi and it's flock to play outside at my uncle's farm on a Saturday (3/6/21). I wasn't able to go cause I had work on that day so I couldn't monitor them.
Also, my uncle doesn't own animals so I thought maybe it ate something it wasn't supposed to.
Then my sisters noticed Tobi not being active as it normally is and checked on it (Mon-Wed). At that time it didn't have the white watery poop when they checked it's vent.

Then on Wednesday, after coming home from work (2 am), I check on Tobi and noticed white gunk on it's face. It never occurred to me to check it's vent until Thursday morning when I had a horrible gut feeling and woke up from a nightmare that involves a similar situation that happened and took my dad's favorite rooster (he was named Winnie).
Everyone else in Tobi's flock doesn't have this problem so we're all confused and worry.

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After washing a bit of the poop off.


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The white stuff on the face is from scratching it's vent.
 
Tobi hasn't eat or drink much for a week now and gotten skinny, to the point where I can feel the breast bone more than usual. The crop is always empty.
But today Tobi ate a little bit of boiled eggs and wet feed. There's finally a crop!
When it poops, it's little to none. I saw it trying to defecate a few times and nothing comes out, I'm really worried and scared.

On Wednesday (3/10/21), my sisters and I gave Tobi and it's flock corid.
Tobi was given de-wormer, safeguard, and added nutridrench in the water on Thursday (3/11/21) up to today + quarantined after we noticed the weird poop and swollen/puffy and bloody vent so we sprayed vetericyn.
What do you feed Tobi?

Are you continuing with the Corid or just gave it one time? What dose?
What dose of Safeguard did you give?
Does Tobi have access to grit (crushed granite)?

If treating for Coccidiosis with Corid, extra vitamins should not be given during the treatment period. Since you started the Corid, I would finish it. Dose for liquid Corid is 2tsp per gallon of water. Give for 5-7 days as the only source of drinking water.

Keep her vent cleaned. It looks like she or her flock mates may be picking at the vent. Does the discharge have an odor like a yeasty smell? I think I would apply an anti-fungal cream to the vent after cleaning it each time (just a small amount).

Encourage her drink. Offer her normal chick starter - this can be made into a wet mash as well. A little egg can be enticing and is good for them too.

I would monitor her crop and make sure it's emptying overnight.
 
What do you feed Tobi?

Are you continuing with the Corid or just gave it one time? What dose?
What dose of Safeguard did you give?
Does Tobi have access to grit (crushed granite)?

If treating for Coccidiosis with Corid, extra vitamins should not be given during the treatment period. Since you started the Corid, I would finish it. Dose for liquid Corid is 2tsp per gallon of water. Give for 5-7 days as the only source of drinking water.

Keep her vent cleaned. It looks like she or her flock mates may be picking at the vent. Does the discharge have an odor like a yeasty smell? I think I would apply an anti-fungal cream to the vent after cleaning it each time (just a small amount).

Encourage her drink. Offer her normal chick starter - this can be made into a wet mash as well. A little egg can be enticing and is good for them too.

I would monitor her crop and make sure it's emptying overnight.
Tobi and his flock eats the Dumor Poultry Probiotic starter feed. My dad started mixing corn into their feed, probably last week.

We will continue with the corid treatment.
We gave .25 ml safeguard on Friday, and another on Saturday. We haven't given Tobi any today.
We didn't give him any grit, but we just started today.
The discharge has a sour smell.
Tobi also looks very constipated as well, all fluff up, neck close to the body.
Whenever Tobi poops, it's very gooey and liquid-like, do you know what that is? We’re very curious.

Earlier today, Tobi pooped. It was a very thin, brownish-green, but covered in the clear and white substance. Whenever she try to poop, it looks so painful because Tobi makes this high pitch sound.

My sister went out to buy anti-fungal cream. She didn’t know which one is okay to use so she bought one for athlete foot and vaginal. Are they safe for Tobi’s vent?
 
Personally I would not mix corn with their feed. If you wish, give them a very small amount of corn as a treat (about 1tsp) per bird once a day. You want them eating a nutritionally balanced feed for most of their diet.

Safeguard dose is .25ml per pound of weight, does she weigh a pound? If you gave it for 2 days and have not given it again, then I would give them all one more dose in 10 days to finish treatment.

Finishing the Corid is a good idea.

A yeasty smell, the crusty discharge, etc. I would suspect she has vent gleet.
I'm sorry, I should have been more specific on the anti-fungal. Athlete's foot cream (like Clotrimazole) or vaginal cream (like Miconazole) can be used on the vent. So either one, I would keep the vent cleaned and apply a small amount of cream.
Personally, I would also consider giving the cream orally as well if she were mine considering that what's coming out is yeasty. I would give 1/2 inch of cream orally twice a day for 7 days. I have done this with several different birds. This will treat sour crop and help with vent gleet as well. Make sure you are keeping water stations cleaned and that feed is not getting rancid in the feeders.

It's good that you now have grit - this helps the birds process foods, it's important.

Do what you can to encourage Tobi to drink. Dehydration can make the urates more sticky and can make it harder for them to poop. Have her drink the mixed Corid water, it won't hurt her.

Keep me posted on how it goes.
 
Personally I would not mix corn with their feed. If you wish, give them a very small amount of corn as a treat (about 1tsp) per bird once a day. You want them eating a nutritionally balanced feed for most of their diet.

Safeguard dose is .25ml per pound of weight, does she weigh a pound? If you gave it for 2 days and have not given it again, then I would give them all one more dose in 10 days to finish treatment.

Finishing the Corid is a good idea.

A yeasty smell, the crusty discharge, etc. I would suspect she has vent gleet.
I'm sorry, I should have been more specific on the anti-fungal. Athlete's foot cream (like Clotrimazole) or vaginal cream (like Miconazole) can be used on the vent. So either one, I would keep the vent cleaned and apply a small amount of cream.
Personally, I would also consider giving the cream orally as well if she were mine considering that what's coming out is yeasty. I would give 1/2 inch of cream orally twice a day for 7 days. I have done this with several different birds. This will treat sour crop and help with vent gleet as well. Make sure you are keeping water stations cleaned and that feed is not getting rancid in the feeders.

It's good that you now have grit - this helps the birds process foods, it's important.

Do what you can to encourage Tobi to drink. Dehydration can make the urates more sticky and can make it harder for them to poop. Have her drink the mixed Corid water, it won't hurt her.

Keep me posted on how it goes.
We have recently started to make Tobi’s feed a bit more wet than usual, because one of our sisters said that it may help her poop better and be more comfortable and less painful.

We do not have a way to weigh Tobi to know his exact weight, but I do know that she is light.
We have been cleaning Tobi’s vent and applying a bit of Athlete’s Foot cream on it as well.
I might have to ask about the oral Athlete’s Foot cream application to my sisters to know if we’ll all be alright with it.
We’ve been keeping Tobi’s food and corid water fresh. We give Tobi small servings of wet feed and make another when she finishes the previous one.

Her poops have been less liquid-like recently, and there’s less blood when we clean her vent. Though, she still struggles to poop and her vent is still relatively irritated and sensitive, and she still makes that high-pitched noise when she tries to poop.
Tobi has been more active like her usual self lately. We’ve been feeding and watering Tobi well, but she is still very skinny. We can’t tell if she’s absorbing the food or not, or is it just her breed (Tobi is a Bantam Frizzle) ?
 
Hopefully once the discharge and whatever else is going on resolved he will start gaining a little weight. Bantams are small, so take it day by day - if he's eating well, drinking and getting a bit more active that's going in the right direction.
 
Hopefully once the discharge and whatever else is going on resolved he will start gaining a little weight. Bantams are small, so take it day by day - if he's eating well, drinking and getting a bit more active that's going in the right direction.
Tobi is eating well and becoming more active!
We've been feeding Tobi their feed with the athlete's foot cream, by mixing it with the food because we're not sure how to orally give Tobi the cream.

The weird discharge is going away but they're still struggling to poop. I noticed Tobi's vent is becoming more prolapsed?
The inside of the vent is slowly becoming more visible each time when Tobi is straining to defecate. And whenever Tobi does poop, we noticed they tend to scratch their vent before releasing a larger poo while for the smaller ones, they struggle and strain to release it.
 
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I would give him wet feed (starter made soupy with water), mix a tsp of mineral or coconut oil into the feed.
For the cream, you can draw it up into a needless syringe, then give it orally a little at time. Make sure he's getting the cream twice a day.

Try soaking his bottom in a warm epsom salts bath once a day as well to see if that will help reduce swelling.
Poor thing! I'm not sure exactly what's going on there. Is he isolate from the others so they don't pick at the vent? Current photos are always welcome.
 
Tobi's vent on 3/18/21
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Tobi's vent today (3/19/21)
We think he's been plucking his feathers off. It's less feathery now.
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Tomorrow I'll buy some espom salt, we had a bag but currently it's missing.
Tobi is very eager to eat coconut oil mixed with the than the foot cream, we'll keep you updated!
And thank you so much for helping Tobi eventho his condition is strange. We're hoping he'll recover.
 

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