swollen wattle hen

[DonyaQuick]

Right now she proved that she can eat, however she didn't want to drink water, there is no discharge, her eye and nose looks clean to me, however I think she has fever and her crop is being affected, could an impacted crop cause this symptoms?

Eating is a good sign. Chickens won't always drink when prompted or watched...you can put water in a familiar container right in front of them and some will refuse because the situation is strange. However, unless she starts to have really dry poop (sign of dehydration) then I would assume she is drinking if she's also eating readily.

Impacted crop does not cause facial swelling, but if there is swelling more broadly of the throat area, the causation could go the other way and could potentially affect the crop. It doesn't sound like a crop issue speficially to me, but the best way to check that the crop is functioning properly is to check the bird right after roost time at night to ensure the crop is full, then check first thing in the morning to ensure it has emtied before giving access to food.

My hen that had the snake bite got hot around her face and throat, and she did sound a bit funny for a while (I didn't look in her mouth unfortunately).

 

[Eggcessive]

Can you get some antibiotics from your vet or farm vet? Sulfa antibiotics, (SMZ TMP or Albon, sulfadimethoxine ) can treat if coryza. Tylosin can treat if it is mg, but the swollen wattles could be coryza.

 

[WoDia]

Thank you! I've noticed she has fever. Her legs are hotter than the rooster

Try the Benadryl, like @Eggcessive suggests. If it’s a sting, that’ll help her. Continue to offer her water, so she won’t get dehydrated.

 

[beautifulchick]

Eating is a good sign. Chickens won't always drink when prompted or watched...you can put water in a familiar container right in front of them and some will refuse because the situation is strange. However, unless she starts to have really dry poop (sign of dehydration) then I would assume she is drinking if she's also eating readily.

Impacted crop does not cause facial swelling, but if there is swelling more broadly of the throat area, the causation could go the other way and could potentially affect the crop. It doesn't sound like a crop issue speficially to me, but the best way to check that the crop is functioning properly is to check the bird right after roost time at night to ensure the crop is full, then check first thing in the morning to ensure it has emtied before giving access to food.

My hen that had the snake bite got hot around her face and throat, and she did sound a bit funny for a while (I didn't look in her mouth unfortunately).

I'll check it in the morning, she is sleeping standing up, thanks for still being there

 

[beautifulchick]

Can you get some antibiotics from your vet or farm vet? Sulfa antibiotics, (SMZ TMP or Albon, sulfadimethoxine ) can treat if coryza. Tylosin can treat if it is mg, but the swollen wattles could be coryza.

There are almost 7 hours left until the vet opens, I will go when they open. I doubt the names are the same but I think sulfa antibiotic will be understood, but about tylosin how could I say it if they are not familiar with the name? macrolide antibiotic? or something for mg? I have enrofloxacine 10% but I've read contradictory things about its effectiveness with Mycoplasma gallisepticum, so I'm doubting in using it, I just hope they can sell the medicines w/o prescription.
Thank you for your help.

 

[beautifulchick]

If a sting or tick bite is possible you could try giving a one time dose of human Benadryl 1/2 of a 25 mg tablet orally.

I couldn't find the active ingredient equivalent of benadryl in the farmacies where I live, they give me two pills: Dexamethasone 0.5mg and chlorpheniramine 4mg but I'm not sure which one to use or the dosage, here it says 0.05-0.2 mg/kg IM/IV/PO but I dont know if will be the same with the pills
https://poultrydvm.com/drugs/dexamethasone
however, according to this writing https://the-chicken-chick.com/bee-stings-in-backyard-chickens/
"a chicken’s immune system is not histamine mediated, which means that when a chicken is stung by a bee, other parts of their immune system respond to the sting. Antihistamines will not help a chicken’s response to a bee sting if one even occurs.
There certainly are many claims by chicken keepers who have given antihistamines to their birds that they are effective in treating bee stings, but this is likely secondary to the sedative effect many antihistamine medications produce. This drowsiness is likely responsible for the majority of these short-term successes you may hear about. If a chicken is stung by a bee and is symptomatic, meaning they seem painful or have minor swelling or redness to the sting site, the best treatment is a good NSAID like meloxicam, not an antihistamine"
Sadly I can't find more information about it but it left me doubting.

 

[beautifulchick]

Try the Benadryl, like @Eggcessive suggests. If it’s a sting, that’ll help her. Continue to offer her water, so she won’t get dehydrated.

It's the first thing I want to go before the others medicines, but I will try to buy the other medicines as well. However there are no benadryl here, in the farmacy I ask something for bee or wasp sting and they offer to me Dexamethasone 0.5mg and chlorpheniramine 4mg, I have them but I'm afraid of corticosteroids (dexamethasone) and I can't find anything about chlorpheniramine in chickens. I'll go with dexamethasone if I can't find something else in the vet.

 

[WoDia]

It's the first thing I want to go before the others medicines, but I will try to buy the other medicines as well. However there are no benadryl here, in the farmacy I ask something for bee or wasp sting and they offer to me Dexamethasone 0.5mg and chlorpheniramine 4mg, I have them but I'm afraid of corticosteroids (dexamethasone) and I can't find anything about chlorpheniramine in chickens. I'll go with dexamethasone if I can't find something else in the vet.

I’m glad to hear that you have a vet that will see her. Please let us know how your hen is doing after your appointment. I hope she is feeling a little better, and eating and drinking.

 

[beautifulchick]

I’m glad to hear that you have a vet that will see her. Please let us know how your hen is doing after your appointment. I hope she is feeling a little better, and eating and drinking.

I don't think they will see her, It's a vet for dogs and cats, but they may know about bee or wasp sting in dogs so I'll ask if they know some case in birds or about the other medicines, I don't know if they will give me the information tough .
For now she is very active, it was loud in the morning but didn't eat her food, she went directly to foraging, she ate a bit of papaya and sesame seeds, I'm not sure but I think the right wattle has deflated a little bit

 

[DonyaQuick]

For now she is very active, it was loud in the morning but didn't eat her food, she went directly to foraging, she ate a bit of papaya and sesame seeds, I'm not sure but I think the right wattle has deflated a little bit

That's really good!

One thing you might see is if she prefers soft foods right now - it sounds like she might be doing that since you said she skipped her regular food. Birds that have a sore mouth/throat for any reason sometimes reject hard, dry foods like pellets/crumbles. Feed mash is worth trying but I've had a few birds that even rejected mash and just ate fruit for a few days while they were healing (I gave grapes, other berries, banana, etc.). Unswetened & unflavored oatmeal cooked to the point of being really mushy is another feel-better snack I give to chickens having difficulty with regular feed. Sometimes I mix in a bit of canned tuna into the oatmeal to give them a protein boost.

I don't think they will see her, It's a vet for dogs and cats, but they may know about bee or wasp sting in dogs so I'll ask if they know some case in birds or about the other medicines, I don't know if they will give me the information tough .

Is there an avian vet you could call even if too far to visit directly? If so, they might be able to answer some of the medication questions.