I have been buying non GMO layer at Conroe Feeders Supply but they told me today they were probably not going to carry it anymore because they had so many shipping and delivery problems from their current supplier, I think it is Hiland in Missouri. It would really be nice to have your feed down here. I am trying to talk my husband into going up to Waco to buy some but don't know how cost effective it would be with gas prices. I have also been to the grain mill in Elgin and guess I could go back there.
Hi Roodle2,
sounds like you've been to Coyote Creek Mills in Elgin. How is their food?
I have a good bulk price from them and are planning to buy a big load before end of this year. I will drive out there and pick up. If anybody in Houston-Conroe has interest to also get their food please let me know. Maybe I can find some people on here who are also intersted in this food which would make the run to Elgin worth even more.
I have also checked with the Hiland Feed at Conroe Feeder Supply and they willing to order, but Hiland has 3 different qualities and their true organic feed is prohibitively expensive. Therefore a no-go for me.
I researched the feed your are talking about and it seems incomplete, it contains only 2 grains and as far as plant protein it is peanut meal and it has a basic mineral mix. Please go to Hugelland non-gmo feed.com and compare your feed with theirs, I currently feed this feed, it contains milo corn wheat barley peanut meal alfalfa meal seaweed meal sunflower seeds fish meal herbs that reduce ammonia and bacteria for their gut. the list of ingredients is lengthy but what an Awesome Feed. Check it out they have a mill in LLano. I have 300 chickens and since I switched production is through the roof. A local Austin magazine Rated Dyer Dairy Eggs as the Best and that is where I sell my eggs.
without an ingredient list it is tough to judge how complete the feed is. if it truley has peanut meal, one other grain, and minerals then it would not be a complete ration. I suspect it has more. peanut meal is defecient in several key AA. most importantly lysine, but methionine and threonine as well.
there also is a potiential energy issue because the protien level in peanut meal is standardized by adding ground hulls. this increases the fiber and reduces the amount of energy. lastly there is some oil left in the meal after extraction and this can reduce the shelf life of the meal especially in the hot texas summers.
peanut meal can be and is a great product for poultry feed, but I do not believe it should be the sole source of protien.
thank you for the information. Can you please post your source, because the information I received from Coyote Creek is different than what you're claiming and I'd like to verify with them.
I have checked Hugellands products and noticed that their feed is NOT certified organic feed, plus it has a warning label that states they added Copper to the feed and it would be dangerous to goat or sheep. Hmmm, if its dangerous to goat or sheep I'm not sure I want to feed it to my girls.
https://www.facebook.com/#!/AustinsBestPoultry Check out this place. I haven't bought any of his feed yet but it sounds really good. And no, I'm not affiliated with him in any way except I friended his company page on FB.
And I do see they have a couple of places in FL that carry it.
Hi guys,
the feed I commented on was not coyote creek feed like the post said " I have found an alternative to coyote," I called the producer of the feed stated and it is as I said, The post was not for coyote feed. Also chickens require copper in their diets Unlike other animals. I cannot afford to feed coyote creek with 300 chickens and Hugelland feed is a great alternative it is non gmo and if you didn't want the added copper he would not put it in. I have a special mix made to my liking mixed fresh the day of pickup. I can only speak from my experiences using hugelland,. I have used coyote in the past and didn't have the egg production I have now. With so much garbage out there you have to read things. And with cash flow Im not spending 30.00 dollars for a bag of feed,, Unless your property has been tested and certified to be free of pestisides or they are caged all day on wood shavings, the feed might be worth it too you. But its a waste of good money if your not certified, my birds are free range and they eat just about anything and although I don't use pesticides, that cricket that jumped the fence into my yard could of ate it. I do the best I can within reason. If I had 5 chickens it might be worth it. but with 300 Its a different ball game. Also coyote uses fertrellis mineral mix which contains added copper..
If you go to their website and click on the map, it has locations where they sell it. There shows a couple in Houston and about 6 in Austin area. Im going to call and see if these stores do have it. I have been feeding my chickens a non soy non gmo for about 4 months now, and am starting to see signs of limping curled toes. It started with one over a month ago and now I am seeing it slightly now in another one. It seems it is most likely a vit B2 deficiency. I have been supplementing their water with vit B's and the one is a bit better but she still limps, and now another one. I don't know as of yet if the new one has injured herself or possible bumblefoot, I will check that out tonight. But I have a feeling it's the feed. This will really bum me, I don't want them to eat soy, gmo's. But I also don't want to pay $$$ for it either. The feed I have been using seems to have really good stuff in it, it could be she just isn't absorbing it(they are 1 yr old), but I doubt it. I may try injections of B2 for a bit to see if that helps, if it does, that is definitely the case. If I find this feed I will give it a try and hope this stops. From what I have read grains do not have vit B2 in them. Mine backyard freerange too all day, get eggshells, grit, oyster shells at will. And an occasional treat.