the Blackest Ones: on exploring the significance of Cemani mutations

[Chris09]

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They are not,
I found them on a German web page.

Chris

Ah well....we can drool from here.

I know the feeling.

Chris

 

[orientphoenix]

aww look at all those beautiful birds, to sad my very own project is put on hold because my main rooster died

 

[revolutionmama]

 

[orientphoenix]

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they're beautiful, what is their heritage

 

[Mahonri]

Bottom pic looks like they have Ameraucana in them.

 

[revolutionmama]

on the bottom picture the father is a Ayam Minorca Kedu Bali (Ayam Cemani genetics) crossed with a show line Ameraucana Black Hen produced this Hypermelantic F1 Rooster & Hen

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they're beautiful, what is their heritage

 

[Resolution]

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That's not entirely accurate. The sire is "hsian tulang naga" (Dragon Bone) phenotype of the Kedu Bali. There is no Minorca in his bloodline.

 

[orientphoenix]

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they're beautiful, what is their heritage


cool, thanx

 

[revolutionmama]

Renee told me he had that Minorca (hence Minorca Kedu Bali) and never mentioned "hsian tulang naga" in him via what you had told her. I'd like to learn more from you personally on this breeding program with "Dragon Bones" aka "Valhalla" my name for him.

I would love to know more about the background of "Dragon Bone" you can PM me if you want. I need to know where to go since I've gone so far into this project.
This pair was my Ameraucana experiment to get the colored eggs with the Cemani genetics, and breed further on down the line.




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That's not entirely accurate. The sire is "hsian tulang naga" (Dragon Bone) phenotype of the Kedu Bali. There is no Minorca in his bloodline.

 

[Resolution]

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That's not entirely accurate. The sire is "hsian tulang naga" (Dragon Bone) phenotype of the Kedu Bali. There is no Minorca in his bloodline.


Everything I know about the stock is provided on this thread. I don't know why Renee thought he had Minorca genetics. He's typical hsian tulang naga- hatched from Cemani morph parents. Dragon Bone ( hsian tulang naga) is the "wild type" throw back that hatch in every clutch of cemani. I was mortified that you crossed them into Ameraucana.
So much for the stewarship of imported lines right? But then I see what you've created and appreciate the originality. You're truly one of a kind- a pioneer poultier- not many of those around any longer. I just hope that that stock remains its own distinct entity and doesn't end up being bred back into the imported stock. It almost seems as if your black boned blue egg layers are more appropriate for North American poultry enthusiasts than Indonesian stock. Please create a registry and oblige anyone that procures birds from you maintains that registry /pedigrees.