The Buckeye Thread

[Metella]

I'm an editor ..... I can't help myself ... since you answered nicely - but I feel a bit peeved at me - I think you also may be honestly trying to share .... I'll just show you want hit me as mean and unkind .... first off posting in all Bold and Italic is like super stressing what you are saying - over a conversation, then the parts I have put in bold below are harshly translated when we only see the words. Any softness is lost in translation - and that is on both poster and reader ....

Excuse me but I must in part, respectfully disagree. IMHO, it is better to provide the opportunity to roost at the earliest possible time. By the time my chicks are 3 weeks old, most are roosting on a 12" high 2X2, giving them early training and time off the dropping-strewn bedding.

If one has only 5 or 10 birds, it's feasible to clean the bedding daily but if multiple chicks are brooded together, I can not see the point of daily changing of litter, even though I get bedding at quantity pricing.

And again...good habits are best learned young.



So that's my fun editor's run down and if you wonder why IMHO it is better is highlighted - with the it is better, it implies this is not only not an opinion but not humbly offered .... Kinda the same with respectfully disagree when paired with words like better - giving the overall tone not one of sharing your experiences but telling it like it is the only way to go.



I wonder what it is about the Buckeye breeder trait that I only pick up posts like this in this one thread of the ones I joined here .... maybe Buckeyes are secretly imperial birds and attract a more strict attitude on raising birds ...

(I'm attracted to them too - so certainly I am not excluding myself)

 

[hellbender]

I'm an editor ..... I can't help myself ... since you answered nicely - but I feel a bit peeved at me - I think you also may be honestly trying to share .... I'll just show you want hit me as mean and unkind .... first off posting in all Bold and Italic is like super stressing what you are saying - over a conversation, then the parts I have put in bold below are harshly translated when we only see the words. Any softness is lost in translation - and that is on both poster and reader ....

Excuse me but I must in part, respectfully disagree. IMHO, it is better to provide the opportunity to roost at the earliest possible time. By the time my chicks are 3 weeks old, most are roosting on a 12" high 2X2, giving them early training and time off the dropping-strewn bedding.

If one has only 5 or 10 birds, it's feasible to clean the bedding daily but if multiple chicks are brooded together, I can not see the point of daily changing of litter, even though I get bedding at quantity pricing.

And again...good habits are best learned young.



So that's my fun editor's run down and if you wonder why IMHO it is better is highlighted - with the it is better, it implies this is not only not an opinion but not humbly offered .... Kinda the same with respectfully disagree when paired with words like better - giving the overall tone not one of sharing your experiences but telling it like it is the only way to go.



I wonder what it is about the Buckeye breeder trait that I only pick up posts like this in this one thread of the ones I joined here .... maybe Buckeyes are secretly imperial birds and attract a more strict attitude on raising birds ...

(I'm attracted to them too - so certainly I am not excluding myself)

I lost my left eye in Vietnam a while back and the vision in my left one is degenerating, despite cataract surgery, so writing in bold makes it far easier for ME to see, at least what I write without too much squinting.

I'll stand by what I wrote at the risk of further raising your ire....I feel that using the word 'better' is far less strident that 'best' and I surely hope you agree with that.

I'm a retired attorney, despite my many errors in grammar, (that's what legal secretaries are for) but I don't try to leverage that fact into my posts to add 'umph'.

I certainly didn't mean to upset anyone, only to give my opinion, which has never been especially appreciated by some. Se la vie.

 

[Metella]

ha ha Mine either ! I still give it.

I agree better is far "better" than best ... but still a poor choice of adjective ... when no adjective is needed ... the way I do it is ..... with no qualifying hierarchy is best .... (get it ? best?)

That also explains the vocabulary you choose to use - which is not typical for face to face conversations and lends to a stiffer feel - in fact, I turn down jobs from lawyers because everyone of them in my 7 year history has not grasped the different times to use different types of conversation - your training for legal paperwork and courtroom situations must be very stringent ... and none of my lawyer clients could overcome it .... therefore their good ideas for novels always failed because they couldn't tell the story that was in their mind in a way that appealed the general public. I give less umph to anyone admitting to be a lawyer .... but more umph to those who chicken keep ..... (not hating on lawyers ... I had need of one who did a beyond excellent job ... just it is difficult for me and my style to interact with lawyers outside of a task-based situation)

Do you have Buckeyes ? Other types? If so - I would love you to share pictures of your set up and what you like best about having chickens ....

 

[hellbender]

ha ha Mine either ! I still give it.

I agree better is far "better" than best ... but still a poor choice of adjective ... when no adjective is needed ... the way I do it is ..... with no qualifying hierarchy is best .... (get it ? best?)

That also explains the vocabulary you choose to use - which is not typical for face to face conversations and lends to a stiffer feel - in fact, I turn down jobs from lawyers because everyone of them in my 7 year history has not grasped the different times to use different types of conversation - your training for legal paperwork and courtroom situations must be very stringent ... and none of my lawyer clients could overcome it .... therefore their good ideas for novels always failed because they couldn't tell the story that was in their mind in a way that appealed the general public. I give less umph to anyone admitting to be a lawyer .... but more umph to those who chicken keep ..... (not hating on lawyers ... I had need of one who did a beyond excellent job ... just it is difficult for me and my style to interact with lawyers outside of a task-based situation)

Do you have Buckeyes ? Other types? If so - I would love you to share pictures of your set up and what you like best about having chickens ....

I have Buckeyes and a couple other breeds. I rarely post pictures because to do so invites critique, even when it's not asked. They are NOT exhibition birds but used in a meat-breeding program and since this thread seems absolutely geared for show people, I suspect pictures of my birds would sully the integrity of the thread.

Here's a brilliant idea! If I decide to post here again, I'll send my text to you by PM so you can do your thing before I put it up!!!

 

[Metella]

Indeed - which is why I pushed on you earlier - as I see many newbies come here post a little and leave because of the show heavy bent .... and selfishly, I would like to have much more interaction beyond evaluating birds to SOP (which is fine - I just want more and different interactions). So I am trying to allow a bridging of both SOP and casual enjoyment of the breed...

I also am using my Buckeyes for a non-show purpose that I won't share as I am sure toes will curl ! to hear of it. I say to you ... sully away - but I totally understand you not.

I am going to sully as soon as my peepers hatch !

(and in real life I don't use these horrid smilie things, but for text like this - I use them heavy as they do help to convey tone)

 

[Minniechickmama]

In nearly all things poultry, I find that the phrase "there's more than one way to skin a cat" always comes to mind.

I don't claim my way is the only way, just offering my experience. So, hellbender, no offense taken.

One thing I do HIGHLY recommend though, is make your roosts out of CEDAR. Yes, I meant to shout those. I have found the only birds I have get mites are the ones who's roosts have not been. I would have built the whole barn out of cedar if that had been feasible to help combat the creepy crawlies.

 

[Metella]

Hum .... nice idea ..... I have heard not to use cedar shavings with chickens.... after I did to no ill effects ..... so I just had kept cedar out of my mind when thinking of chicken things ....

But if you are having not only no problems - but a benefit .... I bet in my new coop going up this year - I could do cedar nest boxes and roosts ... with pine shavings on the floor .... Do you think that would be too much cedar fumes ???

 

[goodb]

In nearly all things poultry, I find that the phrase "there's more than one way to skin a cat" always comes to mind.

I don't claim my way is the only way, just offering my experience. So, hellbender, no offense taken.

One thing I do HIGHLY recommend though, is make your roosts out of CEDAR. Yes, I meant to shout those. I have found the only birds I have get mites are the ones who's roosts have not been. I would have built the whole barn out of cedar if that had been feasible to help combat the creepy crawlies.

THAT is something I want to followup on.

 

[hellbender]

In nearly all things poultry, I find that the phrase "there's more than one way to skin a cat" always comes to mind.

I don't claim my way is the only way, just offering my experience. So, hellbender, no offense taken.

One thing I do HIGHLY recommend though, is make your roosts out of CEDAR. Yes, I meant to shout those. I have found the only birds I have get mites are the ones who's roosts have not been. I would have built the whole barn out of cedar if that had been feasible to help combat the creepy crawlies.

Very timely information indeed. We have been dusting and spraying around here for the last few days, trying to de-louse/de-mite all the birds. Even if we find vermin on one bird, all get treated.

Excellent idea for the roosts. Don't know if it will help but it sounds good. Thanks.......

 

[Metella]

Hellbender .... I'm starting to like you .....