The Migratory/Ornamental Waterfowl INFO Thread

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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did mine about once a month that were that size or bigger, also depends on the bird load

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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agreed there, also on the apricot male thing, usually at most just a bit paler than normals

 

[kangababy]

Question on worming..

My birds are showing no signs of worms but I will be moving them into their new avairy this weekend and adding about 40 more birds or more to the collection. What kind of worming could I give them today or tomorrow?
I have heard there is something you can put on top of their food.
I just don't want to catch them twice in one week.. Too much stress on them though hopefuly going from a 16x24 pen to a 125x75 will be a great improvement for them!

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

best to worm them twice a year. I always put my wormer in a water pan near their food, as far away from their ponds as possible. This way, as they eat, they will drink from that pan and not the ponds. That's about the only way to do them unless catching them and giving Ivermectin individually, which you be nest since you are moving them now anyway, 1/4 cc for small species, 1/2 for bigger ones

 

[kangababy]

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Thanks! I was looing for power to pur on their food ro something in the water but since we have to catch them tomorrow we will just do that!

i will post pictures of all teh new guys tomorrow once we get them in their new pen! I am excited!!

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

snds good... that would be your best bet for this time. This way you'll know for sure they all got dosed. From then on, just put some Safeguard in the water away from the ponds like I mentioned, 3 cc's per gallon, for 3 days, then retreat in a week to catch any eggs that may hatch inside them still, this will break the life cycle of them. Fortunately, waterfowl arent too prone to worms, guess it's the large amounts of water they drink or something, but it's still good to treat them any way.
good luck on the move!

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

sad news in Georgia,

A fellow BYC er just PM ed me with some very disturbing news.
From copies of her e-mails with GA Officials she sent, and GA OCGA Law codes she sent me, it is now illegal to own any species of waterfowl protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act in the state of Georgia, as well as many species of game birds.

This includes all species of migratory waterfowl!!!!!! All of them!!!
You talk about hot.... I was boiling, as you know I am getting ready to get back all the ones I had. Apparently, this laws has been in effect since before I was born. The local Wardens who always inspected me, and even the Federal ones, apparently had no idea of it either. They came every 4 -6 months and never said a word about it. But from e-mail correspondences she sent me from Georgia Officials at the DNR and Georgia OCGA codes she sent me, it's there in 6-8 laws.
Basically says, no one residing in the state of Georgia, may posses for any reason, outside of legal hunting harvest, and bird, live or dead protected under the US Migratory Bird Act, then goes on to list them all by species, which has all our common migratory species, from Wood ducks to Eiders and harlequins...

Her guy, suggested contacting our Congressmen in Atlanta about the laws and asking them to revise them to allow for keeping of properly marked and federally licensed keeping of CAPTIVE bred waterfowl. Makes sense, every other state does allow it, why not us....The laws read like it's a major protection deal, that without a total band, all species will be collected from the wild and depleted, not true... Like she told them

"So in Georgia, you can kill them, you just cant propagate and preserve them" Doesn't make much sense does it.... Anyway, you can bet this really struck home to me, and I fully encourage all members to contact their state congressman when they reconvene in January to try our best to get this ridiculous law amended to allow captive breeding programs.
As the law reads, only by special permit now can you own them, teachers for education, and exhibitors, (zoos) that's it.
All non native species are fine, just no North American species.
Contact me for more info on this, and please help us change this law! Funny, we have a local weekly paper put out for farmers in Georgia, by The Georgia Dept. of Agriculture in Atlanta, THEY ALLOW ADVERTISEMENTS FOR THEM! So, it's obvious, no one knows about this law, not even most of the DNR Officials, it's so out dated.

Even the Georgia Game Bird Breeders Association told her there was no such law, yet she showed it to me in plain English, and has several friends who have been heavily fined over it with all their birds confiscated....ridiculous!!

 

[KansasKid]

Wow, hope that gets amended.

 

[HottentotTeal]

Sounds like you need to focus on a Hottentot and Ringed Teal farm, now.

Sadly, a lot of laws are quite archaic and desparately need to be reviewed, revised, and/or removed.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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hear ya boy!!

Believe me, I will get all them back reguardless, just stinks that we cant currently have the migratory species, some of them are the prettiest in the world...

And yes, a lot of these old , out dated laws do need to be removed or ammended, to refelct current state of things. I mean, as common as these birds are in captivity, there's just no reason justifying this set of laws. I could maybe see it if stealing from the wild was a big problem, but it's not. They claim it's to protect our native species here in Georgia from being stolen from the wild (this is under the No native wild life of any kind can be held section) But honestly, aside from wood ducks and an ocational hooded merganser, that's it for native birds in my area, we arent in a major fly way, so we dont get a lot of them here. You'll never see a king or spectacled eider in Georgia, but they have the classed as a Georgia native species. I know around some of the big lakes here and on the coast we get a mixed bag, but none of those breed here, so it would be very hard to steal eggs from them, LOL

Will keep yall posted on the progress. I have sent in e-mails to the state DNR and The Federal Wild life Office in Atlanta, still no response.. want to have them personally tell me that, yes it is still in effect, but sadly, it sure looks that way from what the other member sent me.....