The Moonshiner's Leghorns

[KF0002]

Only have 2 silver males atm and 1 I'm not fond of

What don't you like about the other silver?

I've learned a lot about autosomal red the last little bit. Yellowing in the shoulders of a silver male indicates autosomal red in the line. That makes so much sense, as the sire to the original Silver Ginger Game birds I got has yellowish shoulders. Very interesting. I will hopefully get a few clean silvers to work with from MM, if the chicks survive shipping and you know, life in general. Can't count your chickens before they arrive, and hopefully don't die.

 

[Amer]

There is feed founder, and hoof founder. Two totally unrelated conditions.

Apparently hoof founder can be caused by overfeeding though, which I wouldn't think is related but it is...

 

[KF0002]

Apparently hoof founder can be caused by overfeeding though, which I wouldn't think is related but it is...

Oh I thought hoof founder was a disease in itself, like from an injury or infection. That is very interesting. Maybe I am thinking of laminitis, or is that the same thing? I didn't realize it could be diet-related.

 

[The Moonshiner]

What don't you like about the other silver?

Mostly just cause he's raggedy looking, lol.
But ya he's smaller so there's that and that is probably why he's raggedy. Assuming he was towards the bottom of the pecking order in general population over the winter.

 

[Amer]

Oh I thought hoof founder was a disease in itself, like from an injury or infection. That is very interesting. Maybe I am thinking of laminitis, or is that the same thing? I didn't realize it could be diet-related.

Yeah I think laminitis is the same thing

 

[Chookwagn]

@Amer

These are Dorking breed hens

How are they genetically different to silver duckwing?
Leg colour is different
And they are chunky bodied compared to a Leghorn.


Could they be used to make a silver duckwing Leghorn line?

 

[The Moonshiner]

Oh I thought hoof founder was a disease in itself, like from an injury or infection. That is very interesting. Maybe I am thinking of laminitis, or is that the same thing? I didn't realize it could be diet-related.

Hoof foundering is diet related as far as I knew. When I was a kid we had a Shetland pony that got the feed bin open and snacked away. He got founded.
At work we have a horse that they say foundered because it was on good pasture and fed alfalfa hay. Idk but I heard my boss say something about that's what dry lots are for. Guessing if they have good pasture you don't give them hay on the side and if you're giving them a lot of alfalfa hay they need to be in a dirt pen.
Idk I'm no horse guy I just play one at work.

 

[The Moonshiner]

@Amer

These are Dorking breed hens View attachment 4133437

How are they genetically different to silver duckwing?
Leg colour is different
And they are chunky bodied compared to a Leghorn.


Could they be used to make a silver duckwing Leghorn line?

Don't Dorkings have an extra toe too?

 

[The Moonshiner]

calling for rain again tomorrow.
I need to get the oil changed in my TB. I haven't got to drive it in like 3 days.

 

[KF0002]

Hoof foundering is diet related as far as I knew. When I was a kid we had a Shetland pony that got the feed bin open and snacked away. He got founded.
At work we have a horse that they say foundered because it was on good pasture and fed alfalfa hay. Idk but I heard my boss say something about that's what dry lots are for. Guessing if they have good pasture you don't give them hay on the side and if you're giving them a lot of alfalfa hay they need to be in a dirt pen.
Idk I'm no horse guy I just play one at work.

Yeah the goat lot is pure sand, stone, and grass. It is usually dry and doesnt hold much mud or waterholes long. But the goat likes to eat chicken feed and goes to great lengths to get it, so there’s that. She had the metabolic form of founder last year where they eat too much grain and get acidosis and bloat. Her hooves are fine though. We don’t normally give her too much grain. We pen her when we feed the turkeys but she is an escape artist, and can open doors. She learned to paw open the buiding door earlier in the year and ate a bunch of gamebird starter. So it now has a goat proof latch.