Well I'm out of the hatch.... my BBS English Orps have all been pitched. Very sad night last night and I'm getting over it slowly. It's yukky and I'm trying to find out where I went wrong. Got some new thermometers and hoping that it's the temp that was wrong. So far it appears that was a possible. I'm going to try the dry method this time around...... We'll see, maybe it's a need to change everything. It was my first time after all. Did I have to start with my very very favorites? Couldn't start with Trader Joe's could I? aarrrrgh.... will hang around to see you all hatch!!