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regarding cyonide


Eur J Emerg Med. 2005 Oct;12(5):257-8.
Severe cyanide toxicity from 'vitamin supplements'.

O'Brien B, Quigg C, Leong T.
Source

Department of Anaesthesia, Our Lady's Hospital for Sick Children, Dublin, Ireland. [email protected]
Abstract

The use of alternative medicines is increasing and poorly regulated. We describe a case of severe cyanide poisoning arising from amygdalin, a putative vitamin supplement. A 32-year-old woman arrived in the emergency department by ambulance unresponsive, shocked and with fixed dilated pupils. She was hypothermic and tachycardic but was breathing spontaneously. Despite her age, she had documented breast cancer with hepatic metastases. Conventional treatment having failed, she only took 'vitamin supplements' bought on the Internet, her father said. Over the next 6 h she required mechanical ventilation and increasing doses of inotropes. Diabetes insipidus developed. As the appropriateness of further treatment was considered, a relative arrived with her medications including 'vitamin B 17' or amygdalin. An Internet search identified this as a debunked cancerremedy and cyanogen. Serum thiocyanate level was markedly elevated. She recovered fully over 8 h. While various antidotes to cyanide exist, in this case supportive therapy alone proved effective.
PMID:

16175068

[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


when using pubmed I found this as the most recent peer reviewed article on:


Laetrile treatment for cancer.

Milazzo S, Ernst E, Lejeune S, Boehm K, Horneber M.
Source

Medizinische Klinik 5-Schwerpunkt Onkologie/Haematologie, Klinikum Nord, Nuernberg, Germany. [email protected]
Abstract

BACKGROUND:

Laetrile is the name for a semi-synthetic compound which is chemically related to amygdalin, a cyanogenic glycoside from the kernels of apricots and various other species of the genus Prunus. Laetrile and amygdalin are promoted under various names for the treatment ofcancer although there is no evidence for its efficacy. Due to possible cyanide poisoning, laetrile can be dangerous.
OBJECTIVES:

To assess the alleged anti-cancer effect and possible adverse effects of laetrile and amygdalin.
SEARCH METHODS:

We searched the following databases: CENTRAL (2011, Issue 1); MEDLINE (1951-2011); EMBASE (1980-2011); AMED; Scirus; CancerLit; CINAHL (all from 1982-2011); CAMbase (from 1998-2011); the MetaRegister; the National Research Register; and our own files. We examined reference lists of included studies and review articles and we contacted experts in the field for knowledge of additional studies. We did not impose any restrictions of timer or language.
SELECTION CRITERIA:

Randomized controlled trials (RCTs) and quasi-RCTs.
DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS:

We searched eight databases and two registers for studies testing laetrile or amygdalin for the treatment ofcancer. Two review authors screened and assessed articles for inclusion criteria.
MAIN RESULTS:

We located over 200 references, 63 were evaluated in the original review and an additional 6 in this update. However, we did not identify any studies that met our inclusion criteria.
AUTHORS' CONCLUSIONS:

The claims that laetrile or amygdalin have beneficial effects for cancer patients are not currently supported by sound clinical data. There is a considerable risk of serious adverse effects from cyanide poisoning after laetrile or amygdalin, especially after oral ingestion. The risk-benefit balance of laetrile or amygdalin as a treatment for cancer is therefore unambiguously negative.
 
Many areas of potential research gets squashed here in the US unfortunately. Apparently in Europe the B17 is readily available. Again, only what I have read.

Having lived on the fringes of researchers, I do see how this happens. Researchers need funding for their work and will tailor the experiments to fit the criteria to get funding. And I KNOW that is true because I over heard to two prominent researchers discussing how to report their findings in such a way to get more funding.

I like to see sound research as well, but when it is not available, that doesn't mean the conclusion is not true. Rather it is not proven by scientific study methods. Much of Eastern medicine still falls into this catagory. I would love to see valid studies done on a number of subjects but it is not likely to happen in my life time.

Dana Farber is just starting to set up a study looking at preventative methods to reduce cancer rates. Unfortuanately I don't know the details-- it was a blurb in their newletter a few years ago.

Just as an aside: The dad of one of the kids I knew growing up was the first person to clone mice. I realize now how very cool that is; at the time I blew it off , and went back to playing. lol
 
Many areas of potential research gets squashed here in the US unfortunately. Apparently in Europe the B17 is readily available. Again, only what I have read.

Having lived on the fringes of researchers, I do see how this happens. Researchers need funding for their work and will tailor the experiments to fit the criteria to get funding. And I KNOW that is true because I over heard to two prominent researchers discussing how to report their findings in such a way to get more funding.

I like to see sound research as well, but when it is not available, that doesn't mean the conclusion is not true. Rather it is not proven by scientific study methods. Much of Eastern medicine still falls into this catagory. I would love to see valid studies done on a number of subjects but it is not likely to happen in my life time.

Dana Farber is just starting to set up a study looking at preventative methods to reduce cancer rates. Unfortuanately I don't know the details-- it was a blurb in their newletter a few years ago.

Just as an aside: The dad of one of the kids I knew growing up was the first person to clone mice. I realize now how very cool that is; at the time I blew it off , and went back to playing. lol
I agree with research project selection. It is very unfortunate that it is driven by dollars. I threw the info I found into the foray as I am concerned that people may do themselves more harm than good. Cyanide toxicity, despite the 40 year old article you posted contradicting such, is real.

Good luck with your health

BTW - I have always eaten apple seeds lol
 
BTW - I have always eaten apple seeds lol
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Linda I'm really sorry about your co-worker. I lost my sister Susie in 2006 during her second bout with Breast Cancer. My oldest son had a cancerous growth in an earlobe when he was 4. They had a plastic surgeon in the OR when they removed it and he's 31 and no more problems. You can't even see where the damage was on his ear. Thank God.

OK, so cookies you suck coffee through.....how are they if dunked cookies gross you out? LOL

I'm trying to listen to see if I really hear peeps coming out of one of the hatchers. I have 8 Phoenix, 3 OEs, 2 LT Sussex and 3 Games in different brooders and 4 quail in one. I hear peeping everywhere, so I'm hoping it's not my busy little Phoenix that decided it's play time.

I lost a ceramic egg. Since the Marans have been back in their pen, I have gotten 3 eggs! I find shells all over, but I can't seem to rescue the eggs in time. So I stuck a lighter colored ceramic egg in and figured I was good. The other day I picked up 2 eggs and then saw a light egg on the sand. I looked around and was really confused as to how it got there. I set eggs down and went back outside and later came in and marked them all. I was going to stick the one in the fridge, but marked it MARANS X and set it in a flat. I went back out and realized the ceramic egg was missing, so later I scratched out the mark and wrote FAKE on it so I wouldn't be fooled again. Next morning my youngest daughter came home and I was telling her what I did. Mind you I had tried to tap the egg on the sink and yep, ceramic. Didn't break. So I didn't show her what I wrote on it, but during my story and demonstration I suddenly held the egg up and let it drop. My daughter looked down and then looked at me. I hadn't gotten to the part where it was a ceramic egg, I was just showing how I goofed. I started laughing as she was handing me a paper towel and a spray cleaner. Gee, wrong egg.......I still haven't found that sucker! I gave away about 100 eggs this week. Mostly mixed breeds. I also shipped out a few dozen eggs that I sold. Kind of waiting to hear from someone, anyone, who may have my ceramic egg. I've checked, double check and checked again and it's not here. oops
 
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