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We have all hit the same roadblock in tracing my Cherokee great grand mother. We know the paternal side of my mom's side came from mainly Ireland although there is mention of one branch being a mayor in London at some point in time. Dad's family came from Germany, maternal and paternal. There was a villiage with my maiden name that the Nazis torched during the war for harboring Jews. There is still a cemetery there bearing dads family's name.

But Great Grandma Alice is a mystery. I have a picture of her and oh yeah, she's Cherokee. Problem is that neither her nor her family enrolled as many Cherokee did when they ordered them to. There is no birth record of her, only mention in a family bible that my great grand father married a Cherokee woman named Alice. My generation is the last that can claim legal tribal membership.....if Alice had enrolled.

I have great pride in that fact. But th funniest story in our family is about my paternal grandfather, John. Went down to the corner tavern one day and never came back. Fell off the face of the earth. They found a death certificate for him but between the corner bar and the grave, nada.
 
My generation is the last that can claim legal tribal membership.
Yeah... we are there too...

Myself (for Lithuania) and my mom (for Ireland)... last ones that can legally claim citizenship in wherever.

I looked into it... but I have close to ZILCH interest in becoming Lithuanian.

@superchemicalgirl the problem we found with the Lithuanian is the language barrier.. some stuff is Lithuanian, some is in Polish, and add one is in Russian and I don't know any of those languages. Also, the Lithuanians change the endings of the last names depending on if you are male or female.... or referring to the family in general... and by that point my head starts to spin.

Because of that we know close to nothing about the Lithuanian great-grandfather.
 
Yeah... we are there too...

Myself (for Lithuania) and my mom (for Ireland)... last ones that can legally claim citizenship in wherever.

I looked into it... but I have close to ZILCH interest in becoming Lithuanian.

@superchemicalgirl the problem we found with the Lithuanian is the language barrier.. some stuff is Lithuanian, some is in Polish, and add one is in Russian and I don't know any of those languages. Also, the Lithuanians change the endings of the last names depending on if you are male or female.... or referring to the family in general... and by that point my head starts to spin.

Because of that we know close to nothing about the Lithuanian great-grandfather.

Plusss names were americanized once you hit Ellis Island. Mine was (and such an improvement, right :lau)
 
member of the Colonial Dames of the 17th Century (as I could be if I was not so much otherwise occupied)
You have a time machine so you can go back to the 17th century and be a dame?

Great name!!! :lau
If you like that, how about Captain Amos' niece Comfort Joy? Her father was the second Obadiah I listed earlier. She's buried near Captain Amos and Rachel.

Somewhere in my lineage, though not the Joy line, is an "Experience". We joked that we should name DD2 Experience Joy so she had 2 names from the family tree.

My family is immigrants, and I can only trace it back to my grandmother, who came over and died here after the rest of the family came over.
3 of my grandparents immigrated from Spain in the early 1900's can only trace Maternal father's lines in the US. IIRC one branch of that path traces to the Mayflower. The Joy side started with Thomas Joy who came from England to Boston in 1634.

We have learned that my great, great grandfather did not come through legally
so are we legal immigrants now?:wee:smack
There was no legal or not legal immigration back then.

Born here= citizen!
Only after the 14th Amendment to the Constitution - July 9, 1868
 

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