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I would dearly love to be able to tutor people in the home processing and I even advertised a workshop on it in my local area. Attempted to advertise in the free publication but they would not post the ad...too many "animal lovers" would be offended. I put up fliers, put it on Craigslist...one person called to see if it was a joke, said he wanted to learn so he could teach his son but wouldn't commit to coming. Not one person called to sign up for the workshop.

PS: I wish you lived in my area. We could do a workshop series - I'd teach cheesemaking
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and you could teach butchering
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. It would be a "basic life skills" series!
 
Man...if my husb and I had seen an ad like that we would have signed up! (And I probably wouldn't have seen it on Craigslist as i only look at it for stuff I'm looking for...it would have had to have been one of the fliers for me...)

But I wanted to tell you about an opportunity my husb. and I have. There is a guy and his wife that come to our church that came from Russia. They are in their late 20s. He told my husb. that he had contacted one of the area farmers that turn over their layers every year and the farmer either gives him the hens or sells them for a small price - like 50 Cents each. So every year he and his wife have been butchering them for the freezer - somewhere around 30 - 50 hens.

We missed it this year, but the next time we're going to get to be a part and learn hands-on. Then....amazingly...another guy was overhearing the conversation and said he'd like to join us..then another.

So, sometime next year, we're going to have a butchering get-together with a bunch of folks from our church.

I thought it would be interesting to submit a slide show for the Sunday morning service - you know...one of those that they play with all the photos showing what the small groups are doing in the church...

WOULDN'T THAT BE A NOVELTY FOR A SUNDAY SERVICE VIDEO!!!
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If only all churches would do something like that! What a grand opportunity! Sure wish I could meet some of you all on this thread and we could all have a workshop about it. It is so much easier to learn as a group and with supportive people, I think.
I have to agree with delisha.You have worked hard to get the toe to correct itself and it won't even go half way there. If there was some progress I would say wait a bit. But it doesn't sound like it wants to be fixed. I think the only other thing you could try would be to cage him up for a few days and see if you can keep the tape on. If there was progress after that then that would be alright. But at this point or if you try that and it doesn't work then yes, you should cull.

Shall we do a 'Bee's List'?
Pro:
The toe is not getting better despite treatment
The toe will eventually cause pain and possible infection, leading to miserable animal that wastes away.
He'll taste delish and his toe won't make a difference in the soup.
Con
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Excellent break down and use of the list. It's useful for so many things in this life....relationships, jobs, church choices, friend choices, etc.
I am sure hoping this turns the tide for them. Just wish I knew why Vinnie's legs look like that. Could it just be from the mites? They almost look scraped.

Just wondering, ya know, every time I handle them.... my head itches!

It finally froze and I've been making fires since Sat. night. Normally I'd go another day or two between clean outs but I'm cleaning out the stove tomorrow so the ashes should be cool enough to put out by Wed.

Bee, how soon should I reapply the NS? a couple days?

I think it's the mites and I would make sure you really get the NS in that area...it seems to be such a tasty place for them to feast!

I'd give it a week, then recheck everyone and reapply whether they are improving or not. If once is good, twice is better!
 
She wants support and I might not have given her what she needs or wants. I feel bad when people have to make hard decisions. I can't in good conscious not suggest investing in surgery. I have show Orpingtons and spent more on purchase them , than I have in feed for three years. If one of my Orpingtons had a broken toe issue I would take it to the Vets. If it was genetic I would cull. If it was one of my other birds I would have tried to do the toes differently. I would have taped every single toe individually with duct tape. Than I would have used Popsicle sticks and reset the toe correctly and taped it. The additional tape on the toes would support the broken toe sticks and additional tape better.The bird would be uncomfortable . It would need to be soaked off weekly and watched and checked daily. It takes a long time to reset a toe. After thinking about it, I might have changed my mind. Tons of work for a layer I can replace with a new chick I have that is 3 weeks old.
 
Once a bone has been broken for some time, the bone ends have usually formed a callous and they cannot be knit together after that. That leaves a floppy limb that would just flop back down into that position eventually. Amputation is one option, but who really wants to do that to a chicken when it's just not necessary....ouch!!!

I think she has made a decision and it's all in her hands now.

I've taken dogs to the vet when they were injured and in pain but I doubt I'd ever take a chicken. That is something I can take care of at home and very quickly. One has to weigh the relative cost vs. the emotional investment in the animal. If dogs were food animals, I'd take care of that at home also. We do all our own butchering of livestock at home.
 
I think ACV would..it's remarkable the list of things it is supposed to help and I have found it beneficial for many things...it immediately soothes bee stings and itchy rashes caused by the unknown plants out there I contact in the woods. I don't know that the NS would be good for acne(I'd be worried about clogging the pores with the oil) or uticaria(hives or rash caused by an allergen) but it definitely soothed Jake's blanket~yes, the entire area of his belly was covered!~ of flea bites that were on his stomach and the redness and itching from them were completely gone the next day. It would be worth it to try, don't you think? It certainly couldn't hurt!
okay, I'll try it. Poor kid.
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Glad to know that it couldn't hurt!! I'd hate to make it worse....
 
acne treatment.

step 1
Grind up 4 aspirin, and 1 vitamin C pill

Step 2
Add a couple drops of lemon juice, Add 1 - 2 drops of ammonia
Mix well! The aspirin and juice/citric acid will form salicylic acid.

It needs to be thickened... Add a tiny amount of hemorrhoid ointment/cream (anti-inflammatory, gets rid of redness) and toothpaste (very drying, good for whiteheads) you should end up with a paste that sticks to the skin very well.

Cover acne

Let it dry on the skin. When it's dry enough that it falls off, wash with Dove hand soap and apply ACV.
 
Bulldogma, I am having issues with publishing. I publish under anonymous because I have no idea what the selections are. Those little tests are hard to read. I usually have to do it a few times.
 
I love how you are setting up these pages! So much is tied into the original post and the pic of the fat around the vent was an excellent illustration for the topic. I'm so impressed by you every time I see that site, BDM!
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