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[normanack]

I don't know...never tried it.  Maybe you could try it and tell us how it does?    Did it work well when you used it? 

Ingredients of Rooster Booster:  Aloe Vera Gel, Calendula (Marigold), Cresylic Acid, Coal Tar Distillate, and Tea Tree Oil.  [COLOR=B22222]<<<<Interesting ingredient that we were just discussing![/COLOR]

Well, I had to look up cresylic acid.

http://www.dakotagas.com/Products/Product_Safety/Cresylic_acid_safety.html

While the first paragraph is plenty scary, note that it is naturally present in cow pee and other natural substances.

Disclaimer: I am not a chemist nor do I play one on TV.

 

[Beekissed]

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Wouldn't be my first natural choice of a topical treatment for bare skin....

 

[Miss Lydia]

It definitely looks like gleet and she looks so tender from it...I can't wait to see what the NuStock will do for this chicken! I'd apply it to all areas of bare skin as well. I have no doubt at all that you will start to see some good results, particularly if you can get some of the NS inside the vent a little ways. Poor thing...can you imagine having a butt hole like that on yourself? That's all I could think of when I saw Ruby Crockett's butt for the first time...mine own drew up in sheer horror at how painful and uncomfortable it all looked.

I was able to pick her up this morning and used a very tiny needleless syringe to put some inside, and smeared more all over the outside, how often can this be applied, I don't want to over due. I'm sure it bothers her but she is very spunky and doesn't let it get her down, she'll make one of my big EE's get away from her if they are bothering her. I also ordered Neem oil and got it today , went out and sprayed all the roost top and bottom and plan on putting Nu stock on all legs tonight.

 

[Beekissed]

I applied once and then another time a week later. Seemed to do the trick and the second time I washed her off she seemed so much better than the first time...well..you saw the pics. She was twice that bad the first time I discovered her gleet. Now you could never tell she even had it.

 

[TerriL]

Sorry to jump in I have been reading and reading but You have something about "it being too late in the season to use the fermenting" does that mean you can only feed that in the warmer months? I thought maybe in the winter you just made it in the house to keep it warm. Thanks for this thread I am going to change everything I thought I had learned from reading book on raising poultry.

 

[Miss Lydia]

I applied once and then another time a week later. Seemed to do the trick and the second time I washed her off she seemed so much better than the first time...well..you saw the pics. She was twice that bad the first time I discovered her gleet. Now you could never tell she even had it.

So i have already over done, I hope she'll be okay since I have treated 2X in less than 24 hrs. You used the dakins to wash her right?

 

[MyGardenHelper]

Sorry to jump in I have been reading and reading but You have something about "it being too late in the season to use the fermenting" does that mean you can only feed that in the warmer months? I thought maybe in the winter you just made it in the house to keep it warm. Thanks for this thread I am going to change everything I thought I had learned from reading book on raising poultry.

I'm wondering the same thing. I would like to get it going while we are having an Indian Summer and would like to feed all year long. Wondering if I should set up a green house that has just 4 shelves with a plastic covering (at most nurseries) and then just take the shelves off.

Also, I used to buy organic soy-free mash for 'gulp' $34 per 50 pound bag. Now I piggy-back on the farm I work at and they have their organic feed delivered and dumped into silos. I now buy for $17 per 50# of the same type of feed (different brand), but in pellet form. I also buy through them (all organic), alfalfa pellets, oyster shell, whole grains, kelp, redmond's salt, redmond's conditioner, peas, corn, etc. Also for 1/2 the cost. I buy 3 months worth at a time...easier on their bookkeeping. No mash though and I'm not about to pay the higher cost for it elsewhere. How is fermenting with pellets?

 

[cowcreekgeek]

No abscess or former abscess evidence on this hen and you could very well be right on the staph, judging from where she has been living. But, one has to weigh if this is indeed staph and it is affecting her body and her immune system has not contained and eliminated it, what to do then? Antibiotics? I think not. She's had time to recover along with the others and if she cannot, she is a natural cull. There are so many benefits to culling....birds that will never do well on all good animal husbandry need to be culled. If they have had the best care and still do not thrive, this is where culling comes in....weak genetics get removed.

There is a two-fold reason behind this..and judging from the quote below, often a three-fold reason....JNB's Granny was right, it shouldn't be this way at all. One reason for culling is to strengthen the flock gene pool...if you are not breeding replacements within your own flock, then this may not be a good enough reason for you.

The second reason is that these weaker birds are more prone to disease and parasite infestation....do you really want that always presiding within your flock? I know I don't, particularly when chicks arrive. Young animals and animals weakened by molting are more susceptible to these things, whereas normally they would not be a problem in a flock with strong immune systems. Why even let it be an issue when you can just remove it?

The third reason is the worry, time and heart wear when nursing sick animals that are just not worth all that stress. I'm not saying animals are worthless, but out in the wild those birds would be the first falling to natural selection. It's right and meet that it be so to keep the flock, herd, pack genetics strong and producing. Weaker animals are eliminated or die naturally...and this is a good model to use when using natural methods on your flock. Learn from nature and the natural order of things. Time to steel yourself and use the common sense God gave us and the examples He placed into His own designs in nature to learn from the best and do what is necessary.

All that worry, time and heart wear could be better utilized as energy elsewhere. Get strong, stay strong, be firm....it's the key towards a healthy flock and, if that is our goal, we all need to learn it and apply it.

I've been the technician by attrition to so many down through the years that I've become too accustomed to the usual positions taken by those that individually name what those that raised me mostly considered livestock -- felt a bit guilty for suggesting something that might needlessly inflict pain when my gut says it's already in her joints. And, my advice was guided more by the ultimate goal of seeing your methodology win in the moment, rather than doin' the right thing, or considering that this ain't about one bird. But, it still didn't take me too long to feel a bit ashamed.

I love the wolves, for their most remarkable ability to manage what we (meaning mankind, as a whole) tend to imbalance, often to destruction, upon most every effort to intervene. So quick to apply [edit] our [/edit] what we believe we know, that we fail to see that greater wisdom that is to *not* interfere.

 

[MyGardenHelper]

I think folks who are familiar with fermenting foods like kraut, pickled corn, sourdough biscuits and such are much more comfortable with it all...as are the folks who make wine and beer. It's just one of those country things that the new generation were not brought up knowing or eating. I don't know too many people anymore who eat pickled corn or buttermilk but those are the two best foods ever to ferment on this Earth! Two of my favorites...

Anyhoo, once you've moved a scum of green mold to one side and reached past it to pull out that golden ear of pickled corn and ate it right there without bothering to rinse it off, nothing much else concerns you when it comes to fermented things, molds, yeasts, etc.

Hi Beekissed,

We started fermenting veggies about 2 years ago (mainly pickles, cabbage, carrots, and beets from the garden) and looking to experiment with more. My DH thought it was unsanitary until I showed him a video from Sandoor Katz. Canning is more dangerous IMO and now his opinion too Would love your time and tested recipe for pickled corn. We also have a fermenting crock and I would use for chickens if we had two...but...nope...sorry chickens! I've had pickled canned corn (the small kind). Are you talking about the large corn that is grown today? Wish I had seeds for the original corn that Indians used. Thanks!

 

[MyGardenHelper]

So i have already over done, I hope she'll be okay since I have treated 2X in less than 24 hrs. You used the dakins to wash her right?

When it comes to natural you can't over-do. Unless they have a reaction to a herb or natural remedy. With herbs, it's out of their system in 3 hours if given internally (not conventional allopathic medicine...could cause side-effects for a very long time...or a life-time). If you want it to stay longer, mix in some ginger. If you want it to go to a specific area, mix in a small amount of lobelia (it acts like a lead horse...takes it where it needs to go). Lobelia is known as the 'thinking herb'. If you have an abcess and your system cannot handle going through the normal channels of elimination (digestive and pooping), then it will come out of your skin (oozing). If your immune system is healthy, then the toxins will come out 'with your regularity'. I find it amazing that people always mention chickens 'pooping normally' and a sign of health. This goes for 'us' animals too

Beekissed,

For her feet, you might want to try 3 parts mullein leaves (grows wild here...I also harvest the flowers to make ear infection oil...not needed here, but to sell) and 1 part lobelia for inflammation. Make it like a tea and then let it sit overnight. Soak her feet in it. Great for swelling and abcesses. If you can wrap them with cloths soaked in this and keep them on her...even better.