The same thing happens every time...

NewChickieMommy

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We have ordered many chicks over the last several years...now either I am just the most black thumbed person when it comes to raising chicks...or something is wrong here.

THIS time...we ordered from Ideal. Chicks were shipped on 2/17 and we got them 2/19. There were 62 red broilers and 18 golden sex links. Within a few hours 5 were dead...I mean just flopped over and died. I immediately called Ideal and she said to give them 24 hours and call them back. So I did...we lost 2-3 more in that time frame. I called them the following Monday and they were supposed to issue a credit. It hasn't happened yet.

Everyone has seemed healthy and happy...except I noticed that some were much more scrawny looking than others. Where some were feathering out and growing...some still looked like they were only one week old.

Several days ago, I noted that a few birds looked "wobbly" is about the best way I can think to describe it. They don't want to walk, are off balance and will put one wing down to correct their posture, lay to one side when lying down, look sleepy all the time, and don't seem to want to eat or drink when in with the healthy birds (try to stay out of everyone's way and don't fight to eat or drink like the healthy ones). I pulled all gimpy looking birds out that seemed to be having balance issues and have put them in their own box with their own food and water (to which I added apple cider vinegar, colloidal silver, & have been giving them 2 drops of Elderberry Syrup for viruses twice a day). I am feeding the sickly looking ones some regular feed and scrambled eggs daily. Their appetites are still vigorous and they are drinking but still off balance and some "crawl" to the food and water but mostly stay laying down. The smallest and sickest that I first noted looks more lively although he/she is still "limpy" at least he will move now and walk around.

I scan the brooder daily and see if anyone looks like their butt is wobbling and if they are, I pull them out and put them with the sick group.

I can't think that this is anything that I have caused. To me...it sounds like AE. I can't seem to find any other viruses/diseases that even remotely sound like what I am seeing here.

My problem is we have lost every chick that we have bought in the last year and a half. It seems that if I buy them grown, they make it. If I try to raise chicks, they always catch something and die. I don't understand it. The first batch we had died due to Marek's. We have never figured out why we lost the rest but in retrospect, I think that the Marek's got into the untreated wood of the brooder and infected every flock that we've bought and tried to raise since then. These chicks were put into a brand new brooder and seemed to be doing really well (one or two smothered but other than that...fine) until now.
 

NewChickieMommy

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You can...and we chose not to do so because we were trying to raise them organically as possible. I'm in school to become a Naturopath (for people...not animals lol) And most people around here don't vaccinate chicks. It was never completely confirmed that this is what they died from but it's what our vet thought because of the "gray eye" and it seemed to be prevalent in our area that year.

Regardless...that is not what I am seeing here. Totally different symptoms. No limping...just wobbling and laying to one side...lethargic...off balance...
 

NewChickieMommy

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They are in a large refrigerator box (cut in half) with the proper shavings (no cedar). Two lights on them with plenty of room to move away if they get over heated. They are three weeks old so we have them down to 85 degrees this week. They are in our sunroom in our home. Well ventilated so I am unsure of humidity. Fed twice daily and given fresh water twice daily.

The sickly ones are the ones that I added apple cider vinegar, colloidal silver, and elderberry syrup (for viral infections in humans...thought it might work on birds but it's out of desperation) and they seem to be better but not completely well. They get the standard feed and scrambled eggs.

Did I leave anything out?
 

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My grown birds free range outside and drink from a stream that runs behind our house. The babies are on purified water (not tap) from a Berkey Water Filter.
 

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