The Wyandotte Thread

To answer some of the questions about Wyandottes, most of my answers come from reference to Wyandotte Bantams that I have dealt with. They take a while to mature fully, not as bad as a cochin or brahma but about the same time as a cornish I would say. Broodyness? Yes mine were very broody but not good mothers. They all would want to set but if you put eggs under them they would give up on them at any time. Definetely different than a cochin. Good foragers and very active if given the chance, but do handle confinement if need be. They were bred for heat and cold tolerance and do extremely well in both.
As for the colors, the cross between and genetic silver(SL, Columbian, SP) and genetic reds(GL,Partridge, Buff Columbian) are interesting. They can be crossed together, I have cross GL and SL together and have crossed SP and Partridge with great success. The male bird crossed with females of the opposing color will produce females of the pattern of the males. IE, SP male crossed onto Partridge females will produce SP females with a certain amount of duskiness in color. The males of this crossing will be SP in basic color but have red in the hackles and the saddle and the barring across the wing. Lots of people toss these to the side but I used these extensively. When crossing them back to a partridge or a SP you will get true partridge or SP offspring. These same principles can be applied to SL/GL crosses and Buff Columbian/Columbian crosses.
The BLR were created at some point by crossing Blue/ GL and White Laced Red in Europe in the last 50 years from what I can tell. Crossing a SL and GL will give you certain offspring depending on the sex of the birds, but getting a BLR from that would not happen.
That makes me think of an interesting point about Wyandotte Genetics that I learned from the master of Wyandottes, Edgar Petty. His statement makes alot of sense when you think about it, or at least it did to me. In Wyandottes all varieties, including the solid colors of white, black, buff, blue, dun, every bird is either a silver or a gold genetically. I didnt understand until you see buffs that have white in their tail or blues and blacks that have red in their hackles and then I understood it alot more. In particular my White Laced Red, I could tell which ones were genetic silvers bc they would have black show up in their feathers at times. The others who were genetic reds would have the most outstanding color of any of them that I would raise.
Anyway, hopefully some of this knowledge helps others to understand Wyandottes a little bit better. I have met some great people along the way and have learned much from them, thought it was selfish to not share some of it with others. However limited my help might be.
 
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simplified version: The reason for this is in the Gold/Silver genetics. It's a sex-linked gene, which means the hen carries one gene (either Gold or Silver) and the roo carries two genes (Gold & Gold, Silver & Silver or Gold & Silver). The female offspring will inherit the gene from their father, so with an SLW roo and a GLW hen you'll get SLW pullets. The male offspring inherits the genes from both parents and will be Gold & Silver.

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Play around with the calculator and you'll probably understand this better
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I'm not the best at explaining
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Sounds like Partridge (the color). Do a google search, you'll find some pictures. My bantam wyandotte hen from the first page of this thread is a European Partridge (our Partridges have very light base color, American are much darker and redder). You'll find several breeds that color.

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You will read this everywhere. I've seen it mentioned plenty of times. However, I have never had issues with fertility in mine and we've never had single combs. Our fertility rate has been 100% whenever we've hatched.
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I am a little confused about the BLR splash. I was under the impression that BLRW came as light and dark and that in order to keep the color one should breed a dark roo to light hens and vice versa. Is the light BLRW actually a splash, or is that something different altogether?

when I hatched I had no light rooster so kept my dark one and the light colored hens, as luck would have it lost the rooster some time ago. I now have my Silver covering the light colored BLRW. I understand I could get a real variety, I intend to either keep them in my laying pen or sell them. Anything I could breed for? My rooster is from the same family as the some of the birds that Katy keeps so he is outstanding in terms of type and color.

I got some of my BLRW eggs from Katy as well so they are not shabby either, just no roo.
 
It is 8:43 pm here and all the chickens have been up for about 2 hours but a rooster started crowing and I have heard some dogs for a long time near by. But after the rooster started crowing, I sent DH out too see if one got left out of the coop and was cold. He came back in and said he didn't see anything. Is it normal for a rooster too crow that long after being closed up for the night? I believe something was in there or around there warning us and DH just didn't check things close enough.
 
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To keep the nice blue color you need to breed your dark roos to your splash/light hens and vice versa. If you breed splash to splash they keep getting more and more washed out. Some of my Splash/light are almost white while others are a very pale blue. I'm hopefully moving away from the ones that are almost white (although I think they're very pretty) and hatching more birds with the pretty blue. The young ones I hatched last fall look like they are going to be what I'm aiming for as far as coloring.
 
I think I understand the answer the light hens are also referred to as splash?? I had not heard that before, and yes I knew I needed to breed those to a darker rooster to keep color.
 

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