The Wyandotte Thread

[dajen]

At what age do you butcher your boys? I've yet to be able to convince my husband to put them in the freezer but we can seem to sell them anymore and like the rest of you we are getting over run with them.

 

[ki4got]

I have not read all those studies but i do think it might've really specific lines they are using. I have never heard of fertility problems in RC RIR or Domiquers. or even in BLRW......I can't think of any other rose comb breeds.

The following breeds come in rose combed varieties, though some also accept singles too.

Ancona, d'Anvers, Dominique, Dorking (white is APA, red & colored not recognized yet), Hamburg, Leghorn, Minorca, Rhode Island Red & White, Rosecomb, Sebright, Wyandotte (of course).

I'm sure there are others, but these are the ones that I know about.

 

[ki4got]

Quote: guess I got lucky with my red cochins this time around... last hatch last fall was 4 roos, only one matured out very nicely. this go-round, I've got 6 pullets and 1 cockerel from the same hatch. all seem to be growing nicely. with my blrw, i'm sure there were pullets too, since I sold all 14 chicks hatched but 1. but I only know of 4 and they're all roos. LOL

my dorkings seem to gravitate to pullets. I can't grow out a good cockerel to save my life! all the colored I got from sandhill that lived (lost a bunch from shipping) are pullets. thought I had a cockerel, but turned out to be a pullet too. so guess I breed with reds and try to 'make' my own colored boys.

so once I set up my blrw, i'll see what I can get out of them. and since I couldn't bring myself to eat any potentially purebred bantam blrw eggs, they got set yesterday. they've been together a week now, so we'll see if any are pure yet.

 

[dracoe19]

I don't think BLRW have very many problems with fertility because they are a newer color that has been crossed with other breeds. I know Foley used a rhode island red long, long ago to get the rich mahogany color and used 1 or 2 other breeds which, to my knowledge, have very little fertility problems. I think that is why the BLRW are doing great with breeding and fertility. The silvers I think are like others said containing lines that have low fertility. I feel like the fertility could be corrected over time as long as breeders are aware and keep track of it. I wish I knew why it was mainly a SLW problem. I haven't had any issues with my partridge. Granted I have only had them about a year so we will see next year when the rooster is older...

 

[DMRippy]

RIR really? I would have never thought that. I would have used a partridge first. pretty sure they have partridge. in them since I have a hen with that pattern.

 

[delisha]

At what age do you butcher your boys? I've yet to be able to convince my husband to put them in the freezer but we can seem to sell them anymore and like the rest of you we are getting over run with them.

I butcher some out at 10 weeks. I like the little birds sometimes. The rest are butchered out when they start getting hormonal or food consumption is more than value.

I don't think BLRW have very many problems with fertility because they are a newer color that has been crossed with other breeds. I know Foley used a rhode island red long, long ago to get the rich mahogany color and used 1 or 2 other breeds which, to my knowledge, have very little fertility problems. I think that is why the BLRW are doing great with breeding and fertility. The silvers I think are like others said containing lines that have low fertility. I feel like the fertility could be corrected over time as long as breeders are aware and keep track of it. I wish I knew why it was mainly a SLW problem. I haven't had any issues with my partridge. Granted I have only had them about a year so we will see next year when the rooster is older...

really? i would never of thought a RIR in a million of years. The body conformation is so opposite of a W.

 

[delisha]

I don't think BLRW have very many problems with fertility because they are a newer color that has been crossed with other breeds. I know Foley used a rhode island red long, long ago to get the rich mahogany color and used 1 or 2 other breeds which, to my knowledge, have very little fertility problems. I think that is why the BLRW are doing great with breeding and fertility. The silvers I think are like others said containing lines that have low fertility. I feel like the fertility could be corrected over time as long as breeders are aware and keep track of it. I wish I knew why it was mainly a SLW problem. I haven't had any issues with my partridge. Granted I have only had them about a year so we will see next year when the rooster is older...

Silvers really have a fertility issue? I ordered a dozen of them from Dick and I have two left. They seem to have a hard time surviving too. I lost 6 of them the first week. It was quite a surprise at the single combs too. I love the two I have left. They are so beautiful. I really wish I had more. I am going to be looking for more for sure.











I sure is hard to get photos at this age. They never stand still.

 

[DMRippy]

I don't think BLRW have very many problems with fertility because they are a newer color that has been crossed with other breeds. I know Foley used a rhode island red long, long ago to get the rich mahogany color and used 1 or 2 other breeds which, to my knowledge, have very little fertility problems. I think that is why the BLRW are doing great with breeding and fertility. The silvers I think are like others said containing lines that have low fertility. I feel like the fertility could be corrected over time as long as breeders are aware and keep track of it. I wish I knew why it was mainly a SLW problem. I haven't had any issues with my partridge. Granted I have only had them about a year so we will see next year when the rooster is older...

Silvers really have a fertility issue? I ordered a dozen of them from Dick and I have two left. They seem to have a hard time surviving too. I lost 6 of them the first week. It was quite a surprise at the single combs too. I love the two I have left. They are so beautiful. I really wish I had more. I am going to be looking for more for sure. I sure is hard to get photos at this age. They never stand still.

the single comb carriers may not have a fertility issue. I the fertility issue is with thew birds that carry 2 copies of the rose comb gene. I would be happy to have a fertile roo even if I got single combs.. I got some single combs in some Ameraucanas I ordered. that was disappointing.

 

[delisha]

I have my very first ever lavender AM's(EE's) in the incubator now. I am hoping for 5 to hatch. I have 6 fertile.

I know they are not recognized, but they are so pretty and I have a black male from Smith that is a really nice bird.

 

[PeakyBeaky]

We kinda guessed Foley used RIR to get his coloring-it happened too quickly to be just line breeding. SL do have an issue with fertitilty. They have been bred to death-and we all are suffering from it now. We had gotten some from a local breeder-but 8/12 were single combed-which he later replaced....so there is something in there to throw that. And we too see more males in breeding BLR-we just culled 12 roosters from our one grow out pen-to freezer camp with them. All you can do really, til you breed out the bad.