Treatment for worms and coccidosis

[ed33935]

My oldest hen Lucy started a discharge about 10 days ago. I treated her for vent gleet successfully for 10 days with warm water epson salt baths and monostat 7. However she started with green diarrhea after that. I had a fecal done and it shows she has capillaria and pinworms and eimeria (coccidiosis). I started her right away on safe-guard and now I want to treat her with Corid. Can I treat her with both together? Has anyone safely treated their birds with both of these together or do I need to do one first than the other? Thanks in advance.

 

[Eggcessive]

Yes you can use both at the same time. The SafeGuard should be given at a dosage of 0.25 ml (1/4 ml) per pound of weight orally for 5 straight days to get capillary worms. Do you know if there was a lot of eimeria in the stool or just a few? Corid dosage is 2 tsp of the liquid, or 1.5 tsp of the powder, per gallon of water for 5 days.

 

[ed33935]

Here is the results. Seems like a low load.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Capillaria (threadworms) and pinworms are basically the same thing and nearly the same species of nematode so are treated the same. To follow up on @Eggcessive's statements and your tests, I wouldn't worry about the eimeria much. Any animal with exposure to soil will have some coccidia in the digestive tract. A hen the age of yours has long become resistant to the species of coccidia on your property. Once the worms are eradicated, the rest will take care of itself.
Since you are in Florida, you may want to consider treating for worms on a schedule, alternating anthelmintics to prevent resistant in the native population of worms.
In my neck of the woods, worms aren't as pervasive, and I never treated prophylactically.

 

[ed33935]

Interesting. So you think it’s mostly an issue with the worms? But you would still treat her for the coccidosis?

Capillaria (threadworms) and pinworms are basically the same thing so are treated the same. To follow up on @Eggcessive statements and your tests, I wouldn't worry about the eimeria much. Any animal with exposure to soil will have some coccidia in the digestive tract. A hen the age of yours has long become resistant to the species of coccidia on your property. Once the worms are eradicated, the rest will take care of itself.

 

[ed33935]

Great. Let me ask, please tell me how I should use the safe-guard. I’ve been told once daily and also been told twice daily. What is the best way to use it. Once or twice daily for how many days??

Yes you can use both at the same time. The SafeGuard should be given at a dosage of 0.25 ml (1/4 ml) per pound of weight orally for 5 straight days to get capillary worms. Do you know if there was a lot of eimeria in the stool or just a few? Corid dosage is 2 tsp of the liquid, or 1.5 tsp of the powder, per gallon of water for 5 days.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Yeah, I would say that. coccidia can be serious for young animals that haven't developed resistance. For mature animals, unless they are on new property that has species that they aren't resistant to, it can be a serious problem. Otherwise, it is only an issue if they are weakened from a disease or heavy load of other parasites. My best friend worked as a vet tech and she could find eimeria when none of the other staff could. She found some almost without fail and it normally isn't a health concern unless the load is heavy. The same is actually true of worms also.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that your capillariasis issue can lower the resistance to other parasites and pathogens so treat that and nothing else may be necessary. If they perk up after the worms are treated, all is well.
Dogs, goats, horses, chickens, turkey and even humans get coccidia oocysts in the digestive tract.

 

[ed33935]

Yeah, I would say that. coccidia can be serious for young animals that haven't developed resistance. For mature animals, unless they are on new property that has species that they aren't resistant to, it can be a serious problem. Otherwise, it is only an issue if they are weakened from a disease or heavy load of other parasites. My best friend worked as a vet tech and she could find eimeria when none of the other staff could. She found some almost without fail and it normally isn't a health concern unless the load is heavy. The same is actually true of worms also.
Dogs, goats, horses, chickens, turkey and even humans get coccidia oocysts in the digestive tract.

So her green diarrhea (never any blood by the way) is probably from the worms? Oh and she has been with us for about a year, but she came from our neighbor about two houses down so same general soil are ect.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

That is probably the case. A serious case of coccidiosis often, but doesn't always, present as bloody stool. I'm not sure if that is because each species of coccidia occupy a different region of the digestive tract and ceca or why but bloody stool isn't always present.

 

[ed33935]

Capillaria (threadworms) and pinworms are basically the same thing and nearly the same species of nematode so are treated the same. To follow up on @Eggcessive's statements and your tests, I wouldn't worry about the eimeria much. Any animal with exposure to soil will have some coccidia in the digestive tract. A hen the age of yours has long become resistant to the species of coccidia on your property. Once the worms are eradicated, the rest will take care of itself.
Since you are in Florida, you may want to consider treating for worms on a schedule, alternating anthelmintics to prevent resistant in the native population of worms.
In my neck of the woods, worms aren't as pervasive, and I never treated prophylactically.

What products would you alternate between?