tree hugging city slickers createing rules for the farmers

[Msbear]

The kind of city slickers we have are the ones from Washington DC. They have money and move to the country to buy their "McMansion" on 5 acres that overlooks hundreds of acres of farm land... THEN, they proceed to the town council... It gets better.. and they state that there is TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT and that "we" need to protect this precious space (their view) and next thing we know, there are laws on how much you can subdivide and now farms that have been in families for generations.. (that these families would never dream of subdividing) that were once worth tens of millions of dollars.. are now worth a fraction of that as "agricultural protected areas"

I may have to let them know about "redneck Stonehenge"

 

[country lady]

City people not only move to the country to get away from city problems but they soon create city problems in the country. Often they move to get their children away from bad behavior. Soon I am reading about the bad behavior their children brought with them and distributing freely among the country kids. It is quite a jump from Chicago to podunk USA.

 

[Msbear]

I feel bad us grouping "them" all together. I hope we all know that "they" are not all the same. I have seen both sides. Some bring good things like starting farmer's markets and most bring with them the want to get back to the country and therefore they purchase goods from the farmers ..at better prices than we are used to getting

just like anything in life, with good comes the bad and visa versa

 

[country lady]

You are right, Msbear, good people do move to the country, but they blend in and are an asset. In my farming community city people often are not assets. I live in an old neighborhood of farmers and an out-of-state family moved in years ago with six children, teens to adults. The adult children soon moved here too. All six children have given their parents' grief with out-of-wedlock babies, bankruptcy, 15 yr. old runaway, drugs, jail time, cell phone porn pictures to a minor, etc. Even though the parents are law-biding, their children have cost our county a bundle, and they are only one family that I read about in our local newspaper. Now the grandchildren are doing the same. It has become generational. We often read about a drug arrest of someone from Chicago, apparently visiting a local person. Farm communities already have a meth problem. This just exacerbates it.

I have a theory about this behavior. I know three families of 5-9 children and in all three families the father was absent in body or mentally. One was military, the other two fathers were hell-raisers. Evidently, behavior can be passed down. It is a crazy world that we live in.

 

[HHandbasket]

I fit into that category of a city-slicker-turned-country-girl. However, in my defense, I will say this... I am ORIGINALLY a country girl, turned city slicker, reverted back to country girl. I grew up in a small, agricultural town, went to a small country school that was Kindergarten through 8th grade in 1 school (not one classroom, mind you... each grade had 3 classrooms, so it was a regular school in that regard, and the primary grades were at one end of the school, intermediate grades at another part of the school, and junior high kids at another part of the school.... we called it junior high back in the day, but now they call it "middle school"). While our house was in a small, newer subdivision, we were on the last street of the subdivision & there was a 30-acre dairy across the street and an alfalfa field a mile up the road. I grew up listening to tractors and harvesters, went to school with farm kids and farm workers alike, and smelling those very special aromas that can only be produced where cows congregate. When I was 21, I couldn't get out of there fast enough, but it wasn't the farm lifestyle I was trying to get away from... it was my insanely dysfunctional family. I spent 20-some-odd years living in the city and have been dying to return to country life for more than a decade now. This year, we have been able to return to the country and are loving it.

It would take something really, really significant to happen to get me to move back to the city. No way would I do so of my own accord! I don't bring any of my "city life" out here to the country... if anything, I took my country life to the city with me! We lived in the middle of Sacramento but still had chickens and a fairly productive backyard in so far as growing our own food (OMG, we had the BEST soil at that house, I swear). My DH has jumped right into farm life, as well, and nothing is better.

Both of my sons are grown, and they're both city boys. They don't even like coming out here to visit. I miss them, but they're only an hour's drive away so I see them both about once every two weeks or so.

 

[herfrds]

Guys I'm talking about my DH driving our 2 ton truck to go to get a load of seed cleaned, not an 18wheeler.
Or roading a tractor ANY tractor down the road. Or a swather. Or a combine; you know those get up to 35 mph!

Or a sprayer. Or an airseeder. Or a set of drills.
We would be required to have a CDL to drive ANY of these pieces of equipment or to move them with a tractor on any road.

Sorry Dumkoft I should have been more specfic. The friends trailer is a 26ft gooseneck that had been built without brakes, he put a brake on the front axle of each side, but the GVW guy said he had no brakes and needed them on all 4 axles.
How heavy are 2 bulls? I think he said the yard weighed them at about 2000 pounds each.
this new deal would not allow us to transport any of our livestock to a sale barn without a CDL, so if I had to haul a bull or cow to the yard in our own personal vehicle with our 18ft trailer I would now need a cDL to do it.
BS!

 

[mick&cori]

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HHandbasket: I'm right there with you, Sweetie. Grew up country, moved to city, moved back to country.

I think the big deal here is the "one size fits all" laws and regulations. I mean, yes, the laws are for protecting the people who follow the "I.D.10T Rule". We aren't all foolish!!

I don't think that the original post with the bushes around the manure pile is of any benefit other than "those city folk" don't want to see it.

I really don't think it's fair for the small farms to be hurt because of the "big brother" or because of the people that follow the "I.D.10T" Rule don't know (or don't care) that they shouldn't have 100 horses/cows/pigs/etc. in a 5 acre pasture.

I am probably very old-fashioned (being the ripe age of 34), but I don't farm for big "profit". Yes, a little money here, a little money there is great, but I farm because I like knowing where my food came from. I like knowing there weren't any steriods, or "preservatives" pumped in it. I like the way it tastes, cooks, and the freshness of it. I like knowing that my animals came the way God intended, and will go the same way. I like hearing my roosters crow, the smells of a fresh-cut hay field, and not worrying when my kids go out and play like I did in the city.

If that makes me old-fashioned, then so be it.

 

[Dutchgirl]

We were city slickers six years ago. Fresh out of the city, and we purchased our first chickens that very year. We got used to the farm machinery slowing down traffic (although we still do get annoyed at them.) When the roosters first started crowing, they didn't wake me up.

Yeah, we were city slickers. When we moved here we rejoiced in the lack of traffic. Now we are annoyed at "rush hour" in this small town... a line of ten cars waiting is really busy, while in the city ten cars would be everyday life. We got used to the disgusting smells of manure, skunks, and roadkill.

The chickens are my pride and joy, at least when the people from town come along.

 

[Okie Amazon]

Pastures cannot have any natural or man made ponds, streams, creeks or other water sources. They must be fenced off not allowing the animals within 50 or 100ft of the water source

What the bloody blue blazes kind of reg is this????????? That CAN'T be right! How are you supposed to water your animals ranging out in a field!?​

 

[PaulaSB12]

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No what they want is the disneyfied "country life" with cute little ba lambs and itle little piggies and moo cows but none of the reality of the countryside they want disney and nothing is going to get in their way (as far as they are concerned) well if you want disneyfied world move to disney.