Truth or not...blue birds

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No offence, my jokes are often missed. I am on the other side of the ocean, not easy to offend me. Except when my calculator is called german...
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This stuff is not easy also.

Anything is possible but why would you go to such lengths to create a black line from that blue animal?

Don't get me wrong, I always say "breed blue to blue". Once everything is in there (melanizers) it can be kept in there by selection and you have the most control over every aspect of your blue color.
But if you lack melanizers then use a true black, not a black from a blue crossing, because they are as bad as their blue sibblings melanizerwise.

So when a non black animal (eg a blue) is in the pedigree of your black line the purity of your melanizers can be compromised. That could mean that your chance of succeeding the melanizer injection is reduced by 50%.

There is one flaw in my theory. Melanizers can be lost from black lines also.
That would mean the occasional rusty animal in those lines.
The problem with blue is that that rustiness is covered more (spread of pigment), and melanizer loss goes unnoticed.

So why is there a lack of melanizers in blue lines?
Because the blue is introduced from a non self/solid colored line of chickens is one reason.
The same effect you could get if your "black line" has a blue ancestor in there...
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The main reason for keeping splash animals is to breed 100% blues and not get "wasters"...
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There are a lot of myths in chickencountry, much of them are sell-tales ...
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Rusty animals giving the best green sheen is one that comes to mind.
Splash * Black gives the best blues is another...
 
Hey Henk - I wanted to say that I will accept a full beating with a wet noodle
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for calling your calculator German... I should be shot actually but that would be permanent and painful.
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You have my deepest apologies for my past indiscretions. Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa.
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And I do love
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the calculator
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it's a favorite pastime and information source.
 
Hey Halo, if it weren't so late I'd take offense to that Aunt Sally crack!
Look at the name of my store in my signature line!

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BTW, I have learned a lot in this thread, thanks.
 
Oh oh I can try for an answer to that one...

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There are melanizers - those genes that add to or increase the intensity of a color.

And there are DEmelanizers, those genes that subtract from or decrease a color.

My male sizzle sheridan looks Blue Birchen or Blue with Red. BUT I am warned that he could be black birchen or black with red and demelanized which would breed out totally differently than if he's blue. But I don't get to find out - until he's bred... sigh.

So I'm breeding him to blue and black to see what's there (wish I had a splash hen). And what it is that I get. After that I'll throw true birchen in and see what happens. LOL.
 
Melanizer = Black enhancer. Blackifier?
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If you confuse easily maybe you should quit reading this post now...
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Melanin is the black pigment, although it can be chocolatecolor also (oxidation?).
Blue is a clumped state of black pigment, making it appear grey (black pigment on white feather background).

Some melanizers also extend the area occupied by black (eumelanin) reducing the area that would be groundcolor (pheomelanin silver/gold/red). That works even when the black pigment is then eliminated by dominant white.

Example:
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