Ok so i lost Lionel today. and i started running through my memory if i had kept any of his offspring and looked through the most recent set of photos. something was bothering me and i think I have his 3rd generation. this one rooster i have left, he has a signature look to his face, the beak, shoulders and the tail. Always the tail was a give away. I have figured that this guy is a RIR crossed. if this is the 3rd generation from Lionel. is this far enough away for the comb to become straight and the leg feathering to go away? I have this guys sister and they both have inherited a black speckling I figured out that he must have been a test hatch back in May... but only in the past month has the roosterness shown through. In december when i thinned my flock he looked hen to me. So the slow maturity is another brahma trait that has me hopeful. This is his sister for obvious reasons. She has a small sprig on her comb at the mid point which helped in a give away that there might be brahma blood. She is a Turken with the mystery father like the rooster. They both have speckled ness. The potential Fathers A Red Brahma (Lionel X RIR i think) Sold this summer... A RIR someone left at my coop. Sold this summer... And this guy. Half brother to the Red Brahma. (Lionel X Speckled Sussex) HE is the one i am thinking was the roo to the two at the top.... sold this summer. This is Lionel. Passed away today. Buff columbian brahma. 4 years old.