Turkey Slaughter

[MDeezy79]

My flock got a wild hair and took off to a 2 day road trip and didnt come back to be locked up for 2 days and 1 night. Long story short when they showed back up only had 17 of the 26 left. I have a heavy coyote population by me. I guess 30 acres is not nearly enough free range space for them.

Question is... I lost both my prized Royal Palm toms.. only leaving 3 Royal Palm hens remaining.. Next spring.. Is there anything I can pair them with that will give me 50% royal palms?? Or is that color going to be bred out with out pairing RP to RP.
Tired to figure out Porters Color Calculator but obviously it is too advanced to me to figure out.

Thanks for the help.

 

[R2elk]

My flock got a wild hair and took off to a 2 day road trip and didnt come back to be locked up for 2 days and 1 night. Long story short when they showed back up only had 17 of the 26 left. I have a heavy coyote population by me. I guess 30 acres is not nearly enough free range space for them.

Question is... I lost both my prized Royal Palm toms.. only leaving 3 Royal Palm hens remaining.. Next spring.. Is there anything I can pair them with that will give me 50% royal palms?? Or is that color going to be bred out with out pairing RP to RP.
Tired to figure out Porters Color Calculator but obviously it is too advanced to me to figure out.

Thanks for the help.

What are your breeding options?

Since you only have hens left from your Royal Palms, you will not be able to produce Royal palms in the first generation. The Narragansett color gene is a sex linked gene. The hens only have a single copy of that gene which they can only pass on to their male offspring. They cannot pass it on to their female offspring. The male offspring require two copies of the Narragansett color gene to have it show.

If you could find a Narragansett Semi-Color Semi-Gray tom that is carrying the recessive Black Winged Bronze gene (bb1 Ccg Nn) to mate with your Royal Palm hens (b1b1 cgcg n-) you would have a 25% chance of producing more Royal Palms. Unfortunately it could be difficult to find such a tom and much easier to find a different Royal Palm tom.

Depending on the variety of the toms that you have available to mate with your Royal palm hens, taking one of their male offspring and mating him back to your Royal Palm hens should be able to produce additional Royal palms in the second generation.

The one option that I know of that will produce 50% Royal palms is to pair your Royal Palm hens with a Sweetgrass tom that is carrying the hidden Narragansett color gene. Unfortunately the only way to know if this is the case is knowing the genetic history of the tom or by trial breedings. You can't look at a Sweetgrass tom and tell that he is carrying the Narragansett color gene. If you know a Sweetgrass tom was produced by breeding a Sweetgrass tom to a Royal palm hen, he will be carrying the hidden Narragansett color gene. If you mate a Sweetgrass tom with your Royal Palm hens, all the male offspring will be Sweetgrass carrying the Narragansett color gene and all the female offspring will be pure Sweetgrass hens. Taking one of those toms and mating it back to your Royal Palm hens will produce 50% Royal Palms in that second generation.

Good luck.

 

[MDeezy79]

Well my options of toms have been reduced dramatically after the recent events.
Would any of the following Toms get me any white showing at all.. or does the white color disappear completely?
I have a Golden Narragansett Tom
Pure Narragansett Tom
and some kind of bronze based Buff.. Looks like bourbon red pattern, but the red is very light, almost whitish-orange.

 

[R2elk]

Well my options of toms have been reduced dramatically after the recent events.
Would any of the following Toms get me any white showing at all.. or does the white color disappear completely?
I have a Golden Narragansett Tom
Pure Narragansett Tom
and some kind of bronze based Buff.. Looks like bourbon red pattern, but the red is very light, almost whitish-orange.

Crossing the Narragansett with the Royal Palm hens will produce the Narragansett Semi-Color Semi Gray which could then be bred back to the Royal Palms to give a 25% chance of Royal Palms.

Using the Golden Narragansett tom will produce sex linked poults, 50% Narragansett Semi-Color Semi-Gray hens and 50% Golden Narragansett toms carrying the Black Winged Bronze gene. It would also introduce the red (r) color gene. Using the Golden Narragansett tom produced by this mating bred back to the Royal Palm hens would give a 12.5% chance of producing more Royal Palms in the second generation.

If your other tom is a Bourbon Buff (bb nn rr), using him would produce Golden Narragansetts that are carrying a Black Winged Bronze gene which would produce the same results as above in the second generation.

Nothing that you have will produce additional Royal Palms in the first generation.

 

[MDeezy79]

Thanks R2elk
you are the turkey breeding guru...I appreciate the information

 

[R2elk]

Thanks R2elk
you are the turkey breeding guru...I appreciate the information

Thank you but Kevin Porter is the Turkey Guru, I just use his Turkey Color Calculator to get my information.

 

[MDeezy79]

if you can understand the calculator .. you are a guru... I spent alot of time looking at it and got now where.. haha