Tylan 50 and ivermectin for my chickens? At the same time??

[Lisa2013]

My chickens have been battling a cough and sneezing for months now. I have tried everything and my last resort is Tylan 50. They are also battling mites/lice I would like to treat for that too with Ivermetin. ? Maybe not on the same day but within a day or 2 of giving the medication. Can I give Tylan 50 tomorrow and Ivermetin the next day.. ? So frustrated I just want them to be healthy!, maybe I should just throw in the towel and start over next spring with next RIR?

 

[chicknmania]

No don't throw in the towel. If you live in one of the areas where there's been a lot of rain, parasites are terrible..lice, mites, worms. Lots of people are having problems. Even if you're not in those areas, parasites can be a problem. Don't know what you've been treating them with, but I like Oxytet. It's easy to use and you can treat the whole flock in their drinking water. If that doesn't work, then you reach for the big guns, like Tylan. I don't know why every one runs immediately for Tylan, because that's how antibiotics lose their effectiveness, with so much overuse. If it was a serious thing, I'd say yeah to using Tylan first, but sounds like they have CRD if it's been that long, and that's more of a chronic thing that is not usually that bad. Try the Oxytet to treat the respiratory thing that is going on now, and then maybe Denagard for the long term, as a preventative..expensive, but works and no withdrawal.

I'd wait a couple of days between treating them for the parasites and the respiratory. Treat whichever is worse, first. Clean the coop as much as possible for the parasites and you can give them a dust bath with top soil and play sandmixed up. We use a baby pool for the dustbath and they love their pool!. To that you can periodically add wood ash, Insectrin powder, or garden sulfur. All are good for helping treat the lice and mites DE lightens the dirt up and makes it easier to bathe, and some think it helps kill parasites too. Also garlic helps, 1/2 clove minced in a gallon of water, or chopped finely and sprinkled on their food, although I don't like to use garlic all the time cause it seems to give ours diarrhea if we use it too much.

 

[Eggcessive]

You should contact your state vet or dept. of agriculture on how to get a sick chicken tested. The state vet can also perform a necropsy on a sacrificed bird to look for a cause of illness. Infectious bronchitis, MG, ILT, coryza, and aspergillosis, as well as E.coli can be common. Here is a link to read about these and other diseases, as well as a link for your state vet:
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044
http://www.usaha.org/Portals/6/StateAnimalHealthOfficials.pdf

As far as lice and mites, I would recommend either Sevin dust or permethrin dust or spray. Here are some links to read:
http://www.the-chicken-chick.com/2012/08/poultry-lice-and-mites-identification.html
http://anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu/pdf/8162.pdf

 

[chicknmania]

Sevin dust is illegal to use on poultry. Up to you. I don't touch that stuff.

 

[Folly's place]

I agree with Eggcessive; get a diagnosis! There's no way that this is a good situation, and when you find out what's actually wrong, you can deal with things. Tylan is a good drug, but not a substitute for actually solving the issues. External parasites can be treated with permethrin dust, which is approved for poultry, or Ivermectin, not approved. That's not your primary problem. So sorry, Mary

 

[chicknmania]

We don't really know what her primary problem is. Parasites could be the underlying cause. If she has no dead chickens, she will probably have to go to a vet to get them tested. Many people cannot afford a necropsy OR a vet, Any more, I'm one of them. Necropsies can be expensive here, and the State vets are not as great as they used to be.

I prefer not to eat the eggs of chickens who've been regularly dusted with Sevin, and also it's extremely toxic to honeybees, which makes it a big no-no here. I'd like to find Permethrin (Insectrin) in a bigger container, though I haven't searched a whole lot, they only sell two pound containers locally. I do as much as I can with natural stuff; sulfur and ash both work really well in the dust bath.

 

[Lisa2013]

I don't know what the biggest problem here is (with my chicken) either the mites or the cough and sneezing? All I know is I have tried the injectable penicillin and the water soluble stuff, garlic and honey and nothing seems to get rid of the cough and sneezing! And all of them have mites, all I have done for that is clean the coop several times and put DE down and also put DE on them , and the mites are still there! I am at so frustrated! But on a good note they are all still laying eggs

 

[chicknmania]

You won't get rid of them just using DE. If you've tried antibiotic and it's not working, then yes, a vet is most likely your best resource.. How did you know how to administer the penicillin and "water soluble stuff?_" What water soluble stuff did you use, and what dosage for the medications you used? And what duration?

 

[Lisa2013]

Water stuff I put in the water was tetracycline for 14 days I think... it was a while ago.. And I gave the Pen G, in the leg as per my Vets instructions. Not at the same time, I did the water stuff and that didn't work so about 2.5 months later I tried the Pen G. And they are still coughing and sneezing.. That's why I bought the Tylan 50.

 

[chicknmania]

AH. So, have you told the vet this?