Tylan 50 injection

[Yoda]

Yes I would if the bird is an adult it will get the adult dosage whether it lost weight or not. You also need to understand if you google the antibiotic you will see that there is a large gap before you can actually over dose on the antibiotic. For example I read online with baytril it took 500 cc/ml to over dose an adult rat, granted I feel so sorry for that rat but someone did do it. Giving and adult bird 1cc will not kill it. If your doctor gives you a Z Pack for an upper respiratory infection it's one size fits all cause I asked. I weigh 210 pounds and you weigh a lot less but yet it is the same dose and we take 2 pills the first day and then 1 a day. My dog had an infection and the vet gave it a 3 day shot of antibiotic and then gave me pills to start on the 4th day. My dog wasn't over dosed. It is better to give a little more then a little less.

 

[casportpony]

Yes I would if the bird is an adult it will get the adult dosage whether it lost weight or not. You also need to understand if you google the antibiotic you will see that there is a large gap before you can actually over dose on the antibiotic. For example I read online with baytril it took 500 cc/ml to over dose an adult rat, granted I feel so sorry for that rat but someone did do it. Giving and adult bird 1cc will not kill it. If your doctor gives you a Z Pack for an upper respiratory infection it's one size fits all cause I asked. I weigh 210 pounds and you weigh a lot less but yet it is the same dose and we take 2 pills the first day and then 1 a day. My dog had an infection and the vet gave it a 3 day shot of antibiotic and then gave me pills to start on the 4th day. My dog wasn't over dosed. It is better to give a little more then a little less.

While I agree that Tylan is probably safe in birds, it's not safe in all species, like horses. There are many drugs that people use "off label", which is okay, but we should all know what the side effects are. A few on my radar are Baytril in cats and young animals, Valbazen in pigeons/doves and crias, Ivermectin in dogs, I could go on and on.

Before I knew any better, I gave a dog a dose of Ivermectin. I could have killed that dog if it had heartworms or if it had been on of the Collie breeds.

 

[Yoda]

While I agree that Tylan is probably safe in birds, it's not safe in all species, like horses. There are many drugs that people use "off label", which is okay, but we should all know what the side effects are. A few on my radar are Baytril in cats and young animals, Valbazen in pigeons/doves and crias, Ivermectin in dogs, I could go on and on.

Before I knew any better, I gave a dog a dose of Ivermectin. I could have killed that dog if it had heartworms or if it had been on of the Collie breeds.

I do not own a horse so I would not tell anyone to use Tylan on them unless I checked first. OK I was never prescribed baytril for any of my dogs or cats so I would have to ask a vet about giving it to a cat. Young animal it may cause a growth defect. I was given pills for my allergies that may cause a heart attack but we still use them. Any medication is with risk but the risk is slim so we take the chance. I never heard of Valbazen and don't know what it is for? Do you give your dog heartguard? Heartguard IS Ivermectin. and it would not kill the dog if you gave it a dose. Here is what I found online:
Long-term monthly administration of ivermectin year-round at three times the dose normally used for heartworm prevention (see "Prevention") will eventually kill adult heartworms. However, this is not the treatment of choice for removal of adult heartworms for two reasons. First, this treatment is not as effective as melarsamine. More importantly, adult heartworms do not begin to die until 18 months of treatment have elapsed, which is not acceptable for dogs with high-volume infections. Long-term treatment over a year with doxycycline daily and Heartguard Plus has been shown to be effective in early heartworm patients which are asymptomatic.
Now it states right there that you can give a dog with heartworm 3 times the regular dose each month of Ivermectin and the dog will not die of an overdose but it will eventually kill the heartworms. I had a friend who gave her dog it's medication and a half hour later the husband gave the dog the same meds. This happened til they ran out of pills. She called the vet and asked why she did not have enough pills for the 10 days the bottle stated. The dog didn't get sick cause it will take a lot more to over dose. Communication was missing in that situation LOL Most med makers give generous forgiveness gaps otherwise a lot of meds will not be available without going to a vet. I know a lot of people who have their collie on heartguard as well.
I will end with a lot of old time breeders passed their tricks down from one breeder to the next. I am sure there were side effects back then and those breeders worked them out as time went by. Most of us on this forum use those old remedies and tricks today to keep our small flocks going. Yes we will have our share of deaths just as they did. Sometimes we don't know why the bird died but it did. Again a lot of us aren't lucky to have a bird vet in our area or even state but we learned what the breeders before us did and we use that knowledge today. I have hatched Emu recently. She has a leg problem, yes I now have a bird vet in my area and I took her there. She knows nothing to very little about Emu but she will try her hardest to help. She on the other hand does know peafowl and we talked. She said I learned from the best - experience and nothing is greater than that. For that I thank Deerman!

 

[casportpony]

I do not own a horse so I would not tell anyone to use Tylan on them unless I checked first. OK I was never prescribed baytril for any of my dogs or cats so I would have to ask a vet about giving it to a cat. Young animal it may cause a growth defect. I was given pills for my allergies that may cause a heart attack but we still use them. Any medication is with risk but the risk is slim so we take the chance. I never heard of Valbazen and don't know what it is for? Do you give your dog heartguard? Heartguard IS Ivermectin. and it would not kill the dog if you gave it a dose. Here is what I found online:
Long-term monthly administration of ivermectin year-round at three times the dose normally used for heartworm prevention (see "Prevention") will eventually kill adult heartworms. However, this is not the treatment of choice for removal of adult heartworms for two reasons. First, this treatment is not as effective as melarsamine. More importantly, adult heartworms do not begin to die until 18 months of treatment have elapsed, which is not acceptable for dogs with high-volume infections. Long-term treatment over a year with doxycycline daily and Heartguard Plus has been shown to be effective in early heartworm patients which are asymptomatic.
Now it states right there that you can give a dog with heartworm 3 times the regular dose each month of Ivermectin and the dog will not die of an overdose but it will eventually kill the heartworms. I had a friend who gave her dog it's medication and a half hour later the husband gave the dog the same meds. This happened til they ran out of pills. She called the vet and asked why she did not have enough pills for the 10 days the bottle stated. The dog didn't get sick cause it will take a lot more to over dose. Communication was missing in that situation LOL Most med makers give generous forgiveness gaps otherwise a lot of meds will not be available without going to a vet. I know a lot of people who have their collie on heartguard as well.
I will end with a lot of old time breeders passed their tricks down from one breeder to the next. I am sure there were side effects back then and those breeders worked them out as time went by. Most of us on this forum use those old remedies and tricks today to keep our small flocks going. Yes we will have our share of deaths just as they did. Sometimes we don't know why the bird died but it did. Again a lot of us aren't lucky to have a bird vet in our area or even state but we learned what the breeders before us did and we use that knowledge today. I have hatched Emu recently. She has a leg problem, yes I now have a bird vet in my area and I took her there. She knows nothing to very little about Emu but she will try her hardest to help. She on the other hand does know peafowl and we talked. She said I learned from the best - experience and nothing is greater than that. For that I thank Deerman!

Before I post a proper reply, did you see the post where someone gave their bird tobacco tea and it dead ten minutes later? Did you know that tobacco is toxic to birds? And a quick note... If a dog has a severe heartworm infestation, treating with ivermectin can be fatal, I didn't mean to imply that it was always fatal.