Yep, you are doing a great job! That wound looks great...well, you know LOL compared to the origianal one. Keep at it.
SangaChicken said it pretty well........
SangaChicken said it pretty well........
Update on Booger , my pup , and my bad luck !! 7-22-09
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Great Job!!!!! The process is coming along nicely, you've done wonders. I feel sorry for you room mates horse thou, perhaps you can have a friendly talk with her?
Shriners is all natural antibiotic, repels flies and works on removing proud flesh. It is a little expensive but I think well worth the cost when dealing with a wound like this, the stuff is pretty amazing.
They make asprin for horses, it would be easier on his tummy. If you feel you still have to bute him, try using the least amount - perhaps just a gram to take the edge off.
Shriners is all natural antibiotic, repels flies and works on removing proud flesh. It is a little expensive but I think well worth the cost when dealing with a wound like this, the stuff is pretty amazing.
They make asprin for horses, it would be easier on his tummy. If you feel you still have to bute him, try using the least amount - perhaps just a gram to take the edge off.
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I tend to agree, but lets also look at the situation. We would like to think that all vets are in it to help animals and save the world one pet at a time. But for some of them, it is just a business. I worked as a vet tech for a little over a year before I was totally burnt out, by pet owners. I was a small animal tech and if I had a dollar for every young dumb couple who have been dating three months and get a puppy, but pass on Heartguard or other Heartworm medication because they can't afford it.. then are absolutely shocked when their dog has heartworms (no doubt from those romantic dates at the dog park), and then of course they can't afford the $700 treatment with a 50% success rate... for $30 a month you can insure against that with prevenative, and Heartguard will PAY for treatment if your dog comes up positive while being treated. Can't beat that. So, the point of this rant is that maybe the vet is burned out. Which is no excuse.. but also..
With all due respect to the original poster.. she mentioned a significant lack of funds/trailer etc.. the vet also has to consider whether or not he's going to be paid for his services, whether or not the owner can afford to sufficently treat the animal, etc. If the vet was under the impression that his services above and beyond the initial call couldn't be paid for, or that proper treatment for the horse couldn't be paid for, putting a horse down rather than letting it slowly suffer to the point of death is not a bad call. (Which is what may happen to the roommate's horse!). Fortunately for the horse, and all of us who are paying attention, the OP is intelligent enough to overcome her lack of funds and bust her butt to save her animal. 90% of horse/pet owners would not be/are not capable of doing the research and putting in the work she's done. If you don't have the money to properly take care of your animals with the best medical care available, you darn sure need to be able to work hard and do your best to provide the best personal care you can. I can't afford vet calls on 26 horses every time I get a shipping cold or suspect a colic, so I treat treat treat.
And finally, a good vet is going to worry about human safety first and foremost. No animal is worth one hair on a human head when it comes to safety, and the OP has mentioned that her horse won't stand for a needle, won't stand for water (They're making progress!). Both of these are due to a lack of respect for humans. If the horse doesn't respect a human, and needs to be twitched, roped, drugged for basic treatments.. the vet may have made a hasty (Albeit incorrect) call and presumed that treating this horse would be difficult and/or impossible, and that this would ultimately result in having to put it down. Sure, with enough funds, you can tranquilize a horse for treatments.. but again, the funds issue. No one knows the horse like the horses' owner, and clearly she has been able to work with him, handle the situation and make strides of improvement.. but the vet has to base his decision on what he sees. We don't know the temperment of the horse. Some of the most loved pets are crazy as a loon with everyone else, but can be handled by their owners. I have a cat that would take your hand off, but she's my cuddle bug. And she stays far away from anyone but me. The vet has recommended I put her down umpteenth times, as she suffers from severe allergies. But I can treat her, and we do just fine. (If she'd just stop scratching the sofa!).
Yes, the vet made some bad judgement calls. But based on the picture of the roommate, I can assume the OP is young also.. add that to the known temperment of the horse, the financial struggles.. the vet may have been making what he felt was the best call for both the horse owner and the horse in the long run. Maybe he shouldn't mix medicine with personal opinion. But we ALL need to keep in mind that he went through a HECK of a lot of schooling, a HECK of a lot of studying and a HECK of a lot of struggle to become a Vet. Whereas we.. have not. In this case, he made the wrong call. But in this case, the OP went above and beyond the call of duty to save her animal, and she's willing to put in the work. Most people would not have, and the animal WOULD have ended up dead, and the vet would have been correct to end it swiftly and in an affordable manner.
Let's cut him some slack and pray he had the right intentions, even if he was wrong medically. There are a million different opinions on treatment, and how something should be treated, and a lot of them will pan out and end up successful if the owner is dedicated to the cure. The OP is a great and caring pet owner. If she can use this experience to teach her horse some respect, and come out of it with him healed up and happy.. maybe she herself should consider going to vet school! We need more people like her in the field.
Well said. Thank you. I work in a small animal emergency clinic and you would not believe the people who bring in dying dogs and have only $100 to spend and want us to fix them!
No heartworm prevention, no vaccines, and so many fleas that I don't even like being in the same room with them! I have seen adult dogs come in so anemic they can't stand b/c they are filled with internal parasites and fleas. Others come in with broken bones, infected gaping wounds, etc...and people want them fixed for $100! Sometimes it's just nicer to put the animal down and end the suffering.
You are doing a GREAT job with your horse, but you need to understand what we see every day. 99% of people who had a horse with that injury would NOT bother doing all the things you've done and the horse would have suffered before dying. Also, if he's still not bearing much weight on that leg you still need to keep in mind that he could have a fracture and/or a septic joint, in which case the outside may heal but he won't ever be sound. I hope that's not the case for him. Keep up the good work.
I tend to agree, but lets also look at the situation. We would like to think that all vets are in it to help animals and save the world one pet at a time. But for some of them, it is just a business. I worked as a vet tech for a little over a year before I was totally burnt out, by pet owners. I was a small animal tech and if I had a dollar for every young dumb couple who have been dating three months and get a puppy, but pass on Heartguard or other Heartworm medication because they can't afford it.. then are absolutely shocked when their dog has heartworms (no doubt from those romantic dates at the dog park), and then of course they can't afford the $700 treatment with a 50% success rate... for $30 a month you can insure against that with prevenative, and Heartguard will PAY for treatment if your dog comes up positive while being treated. Can't beat that. So, the point of this rant is that maybe the vet is burned out. Which is no excuse.. but also..
With all due respect to the original poster.. she mentioned a significant lack of funds/trailer etc.. the vet also has to consider whether or not he's going to be paid for his services, whether or not the owner can afford to sufficently treat the animal, etc. If the vet was under the impression that his services above and beyond the initial call couldn't be paid for, or that proper treatment for the horse couldn't be paid for, putting a horse down rather than letting it slowly suffer to the point of death is not a bad call. (Which is what may happen to the roommate's horse!). Fortunately for the horse, and all of us who are paying attention, the OP is intelligent enough to overcome her lack of funds and bust her butt to save her animal. 90% of horse/pet owners would not be/are not capable of doing the research and putting in the work she's done. If you don't have the money to properly take care of your animals with the best medical care available, you darn sure need to be able to work hard and do your best to provide the best personal care you can. I can't afford vet calls on 26 horses every time I get a shipping cold or suspect a colic, so I treat treat treat.
And finally, a good vet is going to worry about human safety first and foremost. No animal is worth one hair on a human head when it comes to safety, and the OP has mentioned that her horse won't stand for a needle, won't stand for water (They're making progress!). Both of these are due to a lack of respect for humans. If the horse doesn't respect a human, and needs to be twitched, roped, drugged for basic treatments.. the vet may have made a hasty (Albeit incorrect) call and presumed that treating this horse would be difficult and/or impossible, and that this would ultimately result in having to put it down. Sure, with enough funds, you can tranquilize a horse for treatments.. but again, the funds issue. No one knows the horse like the horses' owner, and clearly she has been able to work with him, handle the situation and make strides of improvement.. but the vet has to base his decision on what he sees. We don't know the temperment of the horse. Some of the most loved pets are crazy as a loon with everyone else, but can be handled by their owners. I have a cat that would take your hand off, but she's my cuddle bug. And she stays far away from anyone but me. The vet has recommended I put her down umpteenth times, as she suffers from severe allergies. But I can treat her, and we do just fine. (If she'd just stop scratching the sofa!).
Yes, the vet made some bad judgement calls. But based on the picture of the roommate, I can assume the OP is young also.. add that to the known temperment of the horse, the financial struggles.. the vet may have been making what he felt was the best call for both the horse owner and the horse in the long run. Maybe he shouldn't mix medicine with personal opinion. But we ALL need to keep in mind that he went through a HECK of a lot of schooling, a HECK of a lot of studying and a HECK of a lot of struggle to become a Vet. Whereas we.. have not. In this case, he made the wrong call. But in this case, the OP went above and beyond the call of duty to save her animal, and she's willing to put in the work. Most people would not have, and the animal WOULD have ended up dead, and the vet would have been correct to end it swiftly and in an affordable manner.
Let's cut him some slack and pray he had the right intentions, even if he was wrong medically. There are a million different opinions on treatment, and how something should be treated, and a lot of them will pan out and end up successful if the owner is dedicated to the cure. The OP is a great and caring pet owner. If she can use this experience to teach her horse some respect, and come out of it with him healed up and happy.. maybe she herself should consider going to vet school! We need more people like her in the field.
Well said. Thank you. I work in a small animal emergency clinic and you would not believe the people who bring in dying dogs and have only $100 to spend and want us to fix them!
You are doing a GREAT job with your horse, but you need to understand what we see every day. 99% of people who had a horse with that injury would NOT bother doing all the things you've done and the horse would have suffered before dying. Also, if he's still not bearing much weight on that leg you still need to keep in mind that he could have a fracture and/or a septic joint, in which case the outside may heal but he won't ever be sound. I hope that's not the case for him. Keep up the good work.
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I tend to agree, but lets also look at the situation. We would like to think that all vets are in it to help animals and save the world one pet at a time. But for some of them, it is just a business. I worked as a vet tech for a little over a year before I was totally burnt out, by pet owners. I was a small animal tech and if I had a dollar for every young dumb couple who have been dating three months and get a puppy, but pass on Heartguard or other Heartworm medication because they can't afford it.. then are absolutely shocked when their dog has heartworms (no doubt from those romantic dates at the dog park), and then of course they can't afford the $700 treatment with a 50% success rate... for $30 a month you can insure against that with prevenative, and Heartguard will PAY for treatment if your dog comes up positive while being treated. Can't beat that. So, the point of this rant is that maybe the vet is burned out. Which is no excuse.. but also..
With all due respect to the original poster.. she mentioned a significant lack of funds/trailer etc.. the vet also has to consider whether or not he's going to be paid for his services, whether or not the owner can afford to sufficently treat the animal, etc. If the vet was under the impression that his services above and beyond the initial call couldn't be paid for, or that proper treatment for the horse couldn't be paid for, putting a horse down rather than letting it slowly suffer to the point of death is not a bad call. (Which is what may happen to the roommate's horse!). Fortunately for the horse, and all of us who are paying attention, the OP is intelligent enough to overcome her lack of funds and bust her butt to save her animal. 90% of horse/pet owners would not be/are not capable of doing the research and putting in the work she's done. If you don't have the money to properly take care of your animals with the best medical care available, you darn sure need to be able to work hard and do your best to provide the best personal care you can. I can't afford vet calls on 26 horses every time I get a shipping cold or suspect a colic, so I treat treat treat.
And finally, a good vet is going to worry about human safety first and foremost. No animal is worth one hair on a human head when it comes to safety, and the OP has mentioned that her horse won't stand for a needle, won't stand for water (They're making progress!). Both of these are due to a lack of respect for humans. If the horse doesn't respect a human, and needs to be twitched, roped, drugged for basic treatments.. the vet may have made a hasty (Albeit incorrect) call and presumed that treating this horse would be difficult and/or impossible, and that this would ultimately result in having to put it down. Sure, with enough funds, you can tranquilize a horse for treatments.. but again, the funds issue. No one knows the horse like the horses' owner, and clearly she has been able to work with him, handle the situation and make strides of improvement.. but the vet has to base his decision on what he sees. We don't know the temperment of the horse. Some of the most loved pets are crazy as a loon with everyone else, but can be handled by their owners. I have a cat that would take your hand off, but she's my cuddle bug. And she stays far away from anyone but me. The vet has recommended I put her down umpteenth times, as she suffers from severe allergies. But I can treat her, and we do just fine. (If she'd just stop scratching the sofa!).
Yes, the vet made some bad judgement calls. But based on the picture of the roommate, I can assume the OP is young also.. add that to the known temperment of the horse, the financial struggles.. the vet may have been making what he felt was the best call for both the horse owner and the horse in the long run. Maybe he shouldn't mix medicine with personal opinion. But we ALL need to keep in mind that he went through a HECK of a lot of schooling, a HECK of a lot of studying and a HECK of a lot of struggle to become a Vet. Whereas we.. have not. In this case, he made the wrong call. But in this case, the OP went above and beyond the call of duty to save her animal, and she's willing to put in the work. Most people would not have, and the animal WOULD have ended up dead, and the vet would have been correct to end it swiftly and in an affordable manner.
Let's cut him some slack and pray he had the right intentions, even if he was wrong medically. There are a million different opinions on treatment, and how something should be treated, and a lot of them will pan out and end up successful if the owner is dedicated to the cure. The OP is a great and caring pet owner. If she can use this experience to teach her horse some respect, and come out of it with him healed up and happy.. maybe she herself should consider going to vet school! We need more people like her in the field.
Well said. Thank you. I work in a small animal emergency clinic and you would not believe the people who bring in dying dogs and have only $100 to spend and want us to fix them!
No heartworm prevention, no vaccines, and so many fleas that I don't even like being in the same room with them! I have seen adult dogs come in so anemic they can't stand b/c they are filled with internal parasites and fleas. Others come in with broken bones, infected gaping wounds, etc...and people want them fixed for $100! Sometimes it's just nicer to put the animal down and end the suffering.
You are doing a GREAT job with your horse, but you need to understand what we see every day. 99% of people who had a horse with that injury would NOT bother doing all the things you've done and the horse would have suffered before dying. Also, if he's still not bearing much weight on that leg you still need to keep in mind that he could have a fracture and/or a septic joint, in which case the outside may heal but he won't ever be sound. I hope that's not the case for him. Keep up the good work.
Whether Union Wire Woman is Young or Older shouldnt even be a concidered issue when it comes to vetting an animal.
Whether she can pay up front or on a payment schedual isnt the point either.
The point is the horse was severely injured and needed immediate vetting which should have been offered , not an offer to put the horse down.
And to lump everyone in a catagory of not being able to pay is rather unfair also.
I am sure like I did when I had Horses under my care, It didnt matter what didnt get paid that month if a horse got sick or injured.
What ever was skipped to pay the vet bill was always made up in the months coming.
I dont know many Horse Owners out there who would put a fixable animal down just because they didnt have cash on hand at the time. Money for Horse Vetting can always be gotten no matter what an intrest rate will be.
So what if its pork and beans for a month rather than steak and lobster.(just for reference purposes no mean intentions here).
Anyone who loves their animals WILL find a away to treat the pet.
I tend to agree, but lets also look at the situation. We would like to think that all vets are in it to help animals and save the world one pet at a time. But for some of them, it is just a business. I worked as a vet tech for a little over a year before I was totally burnt out, by pet owners. I was a small animal tech and if I had a dollar for every young dumb couple who have been dating three months and get a puppy, but pass on Heartguard or other Heartworm medication because they can't afford it.. then are absolutely shocked when their dog has heartworms (no doubt from those romantic dates at the dog park), and then of course they can't afford the $700 treatment with a 50% success rate... for $30 a month you can insure against that with prevenative, and Heartguard will PAY for treatment if your dog comes up positive while being treated. Can't beat that. So, the point of this rant is that maybe the vet is burned out. Which is no excuse.. but also..
With all due respect to the original poster.. she mentioned a significant lack of funds/trailer etc.. the vet also has to consider whether or not he's going to be paid for his services, whether or not the owner can afford to sufficently treat the animal, etc. If the vet was under the impression that his services above and beyond the initial call couldn't be paid for, or that proper treatment for the horse couldn't be paid for, putting a horse down rather than letting it slowly suffer to the point of death is not a bad call. (Which is what may happen to the roommate's horse!). Fortunately for the horse, and all of us who are paying attention, the OP is intelligent enough to overcome her lack of funds and bust her butt to save her animal. 90% of horse/pet owners would not be/are not capable of doing the research and putting in the work she's done. If you don't have the money to properly take care of your animals with the best medical care available, you darn sure need to be able to work hard and do your best to provide the best personal care you can. I can't afford vet calls on 26 horses every time I get a shipping cold or suspect a colic, so I treat treat treat.
And finally, a good vet is going to worry about human safety first and foremost. No animal is worth one hair on a human head when it comes to safety, and the OP has mentioned that her horse won't stand for a needle, won't stand for water (They're making progress!). Both of these are due to a lack of respect for humans. If the horse doesn't respect a human, and needs to be twitched, roped, drugged for basic treatments.. the vet may have made a hasty (Albeit incorrect) call and presumed that treating this horse would be difficult and/or impossible, and that this would ultimately result in having to put it down. Sure, with enough funds, you can tranquilize a horse for treatments.. but again, the funds issue. No one knows the horse like the horses' owner, and clearly she has been able to work with him, handle the situation and make strides of improvement.. but the vet has to base his decision on what he sees. We don't know the temperment of the horse. Some of the most loved pets are crazy as a loon with everyone else, but can be handled by their owners. I have a cat that would take your hand off, but she's my cuddle bug. And she stays far away from anyone but me. The vet has recommended I put her down umpteenth times, as she suffers from severe allergies. But I can treat her, and we do just fine. (If she'd just stop scratching the sofa!).
Yes, the vet made some bad judgement calls. But based on the picture of the roommate, I can assume the OP is young also.. add that to the known temperment of the horse, the financial struggles.. the vet may have been making what he felt was the best call for both the horse owner and the horse in the long run. Maybe he shouldn't mix medicine with personal opinion. But we ALL need to keep in mind that he went through a HECK of a lot of schooling, a HECK of a lot of studying and a HECK of a lot of struggle to become a Vet. Whereas we.. have not. In this case, he made the wrong call. But in this case, the OP went above and beyond the call of duty to save her animal, and she's willing to put in the work. Most people would not have, and the animal WOULD have ended up dead, and the vet would have been correct to end it swiftly and in an affordable manner.
Let's cut him some slack and pray he had the right intentions, even if he was wrong medically. There are a million different opinions on treatment, and how something should be treated, and a lot of them will pan out and end up successful if the owner is dedicated to the cure. The OP is a great and caring pet owner. If she can use this experience to teach her horse some respect, and come out of it with him healed up and happy.. maybe she herself should consider going to vet school! We need more people like her in the field.
Well said. Thank you. I work in a small animal emergency clinic and you would not believe the people who bring in dying dogs and have only $100 to spend and want us to fix them!
You are doing a GREAT job with your horse, but you need to understand what we see every day. 99% of people who had a horse with that injury would NOT bother doing all the things you've done and the horse would have suffered before dying. Also, if he's still not bearing much weight on that leg you still need to keep in mind that he could have a fracture and/or a septic joint, in which case the outside may heal but he won't ever be sound. I hope that's not the case for him. Keep up the good work.
Whether Union Wire Woman is Young or Older shouldnt even be a concidered issue when it comes to vetting an animal.
Whether she can pay up front or on a payment schedual isnt the point either.
The point is the horse was severely injured and needed immediate vetting which should have been offered , not an offer to put the horse down.
And to lump everyone in a catagory of not being able to pay is rather unfair also.
I am sure like I did when I had Horses under my care, It didnt matter what didnt get paid that month if a horse got sick or injured.
What ever was skipped to pay the vet bill was always made up in the months coming.
I dont know many Horse Owners out there who would put a fixable animal down just because they didnt have cash on hand at the time. Money for Horse Vetting can always be gotten no matter what an intrest rate will be.
So what if its pork and beans for a month rather than steak and lobster.(just for reference purposes no mean intentions here).
Anyone who loves their animals WILL find a away to treat the pet.
Right, most folks do not have the amount of money that is usually added up fixing a badly injured horse. It can go into the thousands. You can make payments to almost any vet. They know not many people have that kind of cash on hand to hand over at a moments notice.
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Well said. Thank you. I work in a small animal emergency clinic and you would not believe the people who bring in dying dogs and have only $100 to spend and want us to fix them!
No heartworm prevention, no vaccines, and so many fleas that I don't even like being in the same room with them! I have seen adult dogs come in so anemic they can't stand b/c they are filled with internal parasites and fleas. Others come in with broken bones, infected gaping wounds, etc...and people want them fixed for $100! Sometimes it's just nicer to put the animal down and end the suffering.
You are doing a GREAT job with your horse, but you need to understand what we see every day. 99% of people who had a horse with that injury would NOT bother doing all the things you've done and the horse would have suffered before dying. Also, if he's still not bearing much weight on that leg you still need to keep in mind that he could have a fracture and/or a septic joint, in which case the outside may heal but he won't ever be sound. I hope that's not the case for him. Keep up the good work.
Whether Union Wire Woman is Young or Older shouldnt even be a concidered issue when it comes to vetting an animal.
Whether she can pay up front or on a payment schedual isnt the point either.
The point is the horse was severely injured and needed immediate vetting which should have been offered , not an offer to put the horse down.
And to lump everyone in a catagory of not being able to pay is rather unfair also.
I am sure like I did when I had Horses under my care, It didnt matter what didnt get paid that month if a horse got sick or injured.
What ever was skipped to pay the vet bill was always made up in the months coming.
I dont know many Horse Owners out there who would put a fixable animal down just because they didnt have cash on hand at the time. Money for Horse Vetting can always be gotten no matter what an intrest rate will be.
So what if its pork and beans for a month rather than steak and lobster.(just for reference purposes no mean intentions here).
Anyone who loves their animals WILL find a away to treat the pet.
Age certainly does factor in when it comes to experience with animals,and experience with vetting. I'm 29 (As of today!), and I still have vets question whether or not I have the experience necessary to properly care for a severe injury. Age discrimination is a fact, and older people are quite often guilty of assuming a younger person is less capable or knowledgeable. And in a lot of cases, they're correct. In this case, where someone is willing to do research and put the extra mile in, obviously it is not correct. A good vet SHOULD consider the capabilities of the person who will be doing the at-home treatment before tasking them with it. I disagree.
I also disagree on the second point. I drew my conclusions from what she said, that she didn't have the funds for travel or vet treatment above and beyond what she got. Maybe she didn't wish to finance, take a loan, or put it on payments. Money is NOT always readily available for such things. I've seen a LOT of animals put down because people couldn't afford their care. If you're laid off, or a one income household, or your credit is flawed, or you have a lack of credit or you have no collateral.. especially in this economy when a lot of practices have more in collections than they have coming in, financing is not a given. A lot of times whether or not you can set up payments is determined by your relationship with your vet. If this is the first or second time she's used him, or maybe she calls on him every few years, they might not have the sort of relationship that permits him to set up thousands of dollars in care on credit. Maybe she can't withstand another monthly payment. Whatever the case was, I'm saying we shouldn't be took quick to judge the vet's decision.
And for the record, I live in Shelby County TN which has more horses per capita than any other county in America (At least at last horse census in 2002), and I know of at least 4 people who have put horses down this year simply because they could no longer afford to feed them. Times are tight.
Well said. Thank you. I work in a small animal emergency clinic and you would not believe the people who bring in dying dogs and have only $100 to spend and want us to fix them!
You are doing a GREAT job with your horse, but you need to understand what we see every day. 99% of people who had a horse with that injury would NOT bother doing all the things you've done and the horse would have suffered before dying. Also, if he's still not bearing much weight on that leg you still need to keep in mind that he could have a fracture and/or a septic joint, in which case the outside may heal but he won't ever be sound. I hope that's not the case for him. Keep up the good work.
Whether Union Wire Woman is Young or Older shouldnt even be a concidered issue when it comes to vetting an animal.
Whether she can pay up front or on a payment schedual isnt the point either.
The point is the horse was severely injured and needed immediate vetting which should have been offered , not an offer to put the horse down.
And to lump everyone in a catagory of not being able to pay is rather unfair also.
I am sure like I did when I had Horses under my care, It didnt matter what didnt get paid that month if a horse got sick or injured.
What ever was skipped to pay the vet bill was always made up in the months coming.
I dont know many Horse Owners out there who would put a fixable animal down just because they didnt have cash on hand at the time. Money for Horse Vetting can always be gotten no matter what an intrest rate will be.
So what if its pork and beans for a month rather than steak and lobster.(just for reference purposes no mean intentions here).
Anyone who loves their animals WILL find a away to treat the pet.
Age certainly does factor in when it comes to experience with animals,and experience with vetting. I'm 29 (As of today!), and I still have vets question whether or not I have the experience necessary to properly care for a severe injury. Age discrimination is a fact, and older people are quite often guilty of assuming a younger person is less capable or knowledgeable. And in a lot of cases, they're correct. In this case, where someone is willing to do research and put the extra mile in, obviously it is not correct. A good vet SHOULD consider the capabilities of the person who will be doing the at-home treatment before tasking them with it. I disagree.
I also disagree on the second point. I drew my conclusions from what she said, that she didn't have the funds for travel or vet treatment above and beyond what she got. Maybe she didn't wish to finance, take a loan, or put it on payments. Money is NOT always readily available for such things. I've seen a LOT of animals put down because people couldn't afford their care. If you're laid off, or a one income household, or your credit is flawed, or you have a lack of credit or you have no collateral.. especially in this economy when a lot of practices have more in collections than they have coming in, financing is not a given. A lot of times whether or not you can set up payments is determined by your relationship with your vet. If this is the first or second time she's used him, or maybe she calls on him every few years, they might not have the sort of relationship that permits him to set up thousands of dollars in care on credit. Maybe she can't withstand another monthly payment. Whatever the case was, I'm saying we shouldn't be took quick to judge the vet's decision.
And for the record, I live in Shelby County TN which has more horses per capita than any other county in America (At least at last horse census in 2002), and I know of at least 4 people who have put horses down this year simply because they could no longer afford to feed them. Times are tight.
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A lot of that depends on your relationship with your vet. I've got excellent credit and collateral, but I would be hard pressed to walk into a vet clinic I've never been to and get them to finance a couple grand. They'd wonder why I couldn't just put it on a credit card. I've worked in vet clinics for a long time, and this isn't standard procedure. And financing through companies that specialize in this sort of loan are usually at ridiculous interest rates, but necessary at times.
My vet, who has been the family vet for 30 years who probably finance whatever we asked. But he knows us, and knows we'd make good on it even if the humans starved. That sort of trust takes time to build.
A lot of that depends on your relationship with your vet. I've got excellent credit and collateral, but I would be hard pressed to walk into a vet clinic I've never been to and get them to finance a couple grand. They'd wonder why I couldn't just put it on a credit card. I've worked in vet clinics for a long time, and this isn't standard procedure. And financing through companies that specialize in this sort of loan are usually at ridiculous interest rates, but necessary at times.
My vet, who has been the family vet for 30 years who probably finance whatever we asked. But he knows us, and knows we'd make good on it even if the humans starved. That sort of trust takes time to build.
I agree.
But one of the most important parts of my post, that I don't want overlooked.. is that the OP went well beyond what anyone, a vet included, would expect of her and because of it, I am certain her horse will be much better off.
But one of the most important parts of my post, that I don't want overlooked.. is that the OP went well beyond what anyone, a vet included, would expect of her and because of it, I am certain her horse will be much better off.
I respect and understand what ya'll are saying.
The vet could still have talked to the OP w/o any additional charge. The vet did the initial treatment for what the OP could afford, and then the vet should have spoken to her at length about how the wound should be cared for to make it better. Admittedly the vet's time for the talk would have been donated, but the things coming out of his mouth would have cost him nothing. The donated time would have been negligible. The effort should have been made.
I understand ya'll seem to be offended on the vet's behalf, but that aside, I fail to see what ya'll's posts have done to help the OP, and have, indeed, made backhanded insults to her. So let's try not to be so harsh and just try to help out the OP who did not get enough verbal help from her vet or who's vet did make a bad judgment call or, perhaps, who's vet may just be a burnout. The effort should have been made.
She has gone to extraordinary measures to help her horse and deserves our support for that.
The vet could still have talked to the OP w/o any additional charge. The vet did the initial treatment for what the OP could afford, and then the vet should have spoken to her at length about how the wound should be cared for to make it better. Admittedly the vet's time for the talk would have been donated, but the things coming out of his mouth would have cost him nothing. The donated time would have been negligible. The effort should have been made.
I understand ya'll seem to be offended on the vet's behalf, but that aside, I fail to see what ya'll's posts have done to help the OP, and have, indeed, made backhanded insults to her. So let's try not to be so harsh and just try to help out the OP who did not get enough verbal help from her vet or who's vet did make a bad judgment call or, perhaps, who's vet may just be a burnout. The effort should have been made.
She has gone to extraordinary measures to help her horse and deserves our support for that.
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