Well I'm glad I stumbled back to this thread. I would have never have thought of just not adding water, I've had a few yucky sticky chicks lately. The hatches that I'm doing now are both dry. They are in a closet which should keep everything pretty stable. Also have an old Farm Master Cabinet incubator on and adding the shelves and waiting for things to stabilize, oh yeah and there's the BF who can't understand that when we put things in the incubator it changes the temp. he keeps wanting to mess with it, saying "why is the temp so low, it shouldn't be that way" then me saying " hello dummy, you just put a cold wire pan inside, yes it will change it, dah" He loves old things and how they work so he's has put himself in charge of all the temp and humidity regulating and the fact that, I'm blind as a bat up close and can never find my reading glasses, on the average at least 3 pairs are MIA at all times.