Vent sexing - pictures please

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Does anyone have some good pictures of vent sexing young birds? I've read articles that say to look for a "bump", but they don't say where the bump is. Is it the part that you press on a fully adult male to get foam, or is it something in the cloaca? I want to get better at vent sexing birds at 4-5 weeks. I get so many requests for young hens and I don't want to tell someone "I think this is a hen, but I could be wrong since it's young," and have them get upset when it turns into a roo.
 
From the vent towards the tail ....

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For chicks, I donno... here is a pic of one of my 7.5 week old roos
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The the big bald bulge... This it is. Sorry that the photo isn't better... little boy was upset 🙈
 
For chicks, I donno... here is a pic of one of my 7.5 week old roos
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The the big bald bulge... This it is. Sorry that the photo isn't better... little boy was upset 🙈
Adults I don't have a problem with. I want to learn how to sex them as chicks. @Myshire Farm Quail mentioned that they sex their quail at 3 weeks, so I want to learn how to do that too.
 

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