VERY SICK SILKIE- PLEASE HELP??

I bought a beautiful hen last april. When we got her home she had those same symptoms without the respiratory and eye issues. She walked backwards very slow. She always backed into water and sat in it. We kept her in house in a box for few weeks and treated her with vitamins. We also trimmed around her eyes because we suspected she could not see and that's why she moved slow. Made a big difference. She quit walking backwards and nesting in the water bowl after few weeks of vitamins and moved a lot faster after trimming around her eyes. Now, when we notice one of the silkies not moving while all others are free ranging, then we trim around their eyes and notice they move faster and join the others.

This is great, I'll try it on our "Lola" silkie. She doesn't seem as smart as our other silkies, but she is also the only one with feathers around her eyes. One time she somehow got her whole head wet and her head feathers were flat, not fluffy and she suddenly seemed "smarter". I think it's because she could actually see! I will try trimming her around her eyes and see if that helps.
 
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As for the chicken- she is alive and semi-ok. (she was never REALLY normal to start with) I've been keeping her inside, she pretty much has free reign of the downstairs (no carpet, so I don't have to worry about messes). She seems to be doing more "normal" activities- attempted dirt baths in the kid's legos, she's able to feed and water herself. No more issues with her walking backwards or shoving her head into the ground. She seems to be in a constant state of confusion, but that was pretty normal to start with. My main concern with her is her stools. They are varying in consistency from normal to liquid and some have blood in them. She seems fine otherwise. Anyone have any clue? Could it be lack of water perhaps? She still seems to have a bit of an issue getting water although she does accomplish it after several attempts. She is also currently eating chick starter as that's what I have inside the house (we have a momma hen and her babies inside currently so that they aren't picked on by the larger hens.). Should I put her back onto layer pellets?
Sounds like she might have coccidious. Is the chick starter medicated? If it is, then it would have amprolium in it, which is whats used to treat cocci. Then that would probably rule out cocci, no worms in her poop?
 
Definitely treat for wry neck as well. Wry neck CAN be cured although it takes about a month.i have all silkies and last year I cured three cases of wry neck. Symptoms were head dragging on ground twisted neck walking backwards or not able to walk. I cured mine using the Alan stanford treatment for wry neck. You can find exact doses on the Web site Brown egg blue egg. Com. Look up crook neck on that site. BASICALLY the treatment consists of giving vitamin A vitamin B children's poly visol vitamin without iron vitamin E capsules small amount of selenium to help the E get absorbed. And prednisone. I swear by this treatment as it cured three of my birds.so if she has the wry neck symptoms don't hesitate to give this a try. Hope This helps.
 
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I just lost a duckling to "wry neck", will be sending it off for a necropsy on Monday. I suspect it actually had an infection. At least I have all of the medications I need if it happens again and it's not due to infection.

-Kathy
 
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Definitely treat for wry neck as well. Wry neck CAN be cured although it takes about a month.i have all silkies and last year I cured three cases of wry neck. Symptoms were head dragging on ground twisted neck walking backwards or not able to walk. I cured mine using the Alan stanford treatment for wry neck. You can find exact doses on the Web site Brown egg blue egg. Com. Look up crook neck on that site. BASICALLY the treatment consists of giving vitamin A vitamin B children's poly visol vitamin without iron vitamin E capsules small amount of selenium to help the E get absorbed. And prednisone. I swear by this treatment as it cured three of my birds.so if she has the wry neck symptoms don't hesitate to give this a try. Hope This helps.
Crookneck Treatment
Alan Stanford, Ph.D.
It Is Important to Know I'm a Physicist not a Veterinarian
If You Can Convince a Vet to Treat Your Chicken, Do It

Here is my theory and therapy for what some call "limber neck" and I call crookneck. The symptoms first show as a crook in the neck. It usually rapidly progresses to your bird tucking her head, then tucking her head between her legs, then backing up, and tumbling over. It usually hits young birds but can happen at any age. It often happens when Silkie chicks are crowded, especially with more aggressive breeds (like Araucanas) in the mix.

Crookneck's Cause
There are other problems with similar symptoms; botulism is one.


It is unclear what causes crookneck but I have a fairly sound hypothesis. Silkie club members suggest water on the brain, vitamin E deficiency, and injury to the brain. A Silkies' brain is often outside the skull and forms the "knob" on the top of Silkie's heads. See Silkies Have a Hole in Their Head. Brain injury is the cause I feel fairly certain about.

Water on the brain was seen in a necropsy of an affected bird in Florida. Prednisone (read on about different opinions on prednisone) was suggested as symptomatic relief and vitamin E and vitamins B complex are both good for neurological disorders. Selenium helps animals absorb vitamin E.

Here's what I do for affected birds. If started before symptoms get severe, the bird will usually totally recover.

The Most Important Treatment

It is important to be sure your bird gets enough to eat and drink while she has this problem. Birds with severe cases of crookneck can't eat and drink enough to survive. You will need to gently place their head in the feed dish and carefully dip just the tip of the beak in water. Be careful not to dip too far into the water and to not stress the bird while trying to help.

In severe cases, you will need to use a hand feeding syringe and hand rearing formula for cage birds. My boy Spot had to be hand fed for 2 months but he survived to father lots of healthy chicks.

If you and your bird are lucky, hand feeding and the vitamins will be all that is needed.

Giving Prednisone Must Not Be Abruptly Stopped

Before I present my treatment I need to mention that a couple vets have expressed concern about using prednisone. They suggested instead giving Celebrex or Metacam. They are also anti-inflammatory. I can understand their concern but I gradually reduce the dose and do not just one day stop giving prednisone. I have seen no adverse effects and prednisone is inexpensive while Celebrex and Metacam are expensive.

Many vets think prednisone OK and in fact is was prescribed for a bird of mine.

Veterinary Information on Prednisone

My Treatment for Crookneck

If started before symptoms get severe, the bird will totally recover. The following is for an adult about 2 pound bird. Scale back for smaller birds. Do not over do the selenium; it is toxic in large amounts. Animals are more tolerant of vitamin E especially and of vitamin B.
  • For the first week I give
    • Once a day
      • About 1/4 piece of human vitamin B complex pill or a squirt of human B liquid vitamins
      • :25 micrograms selenium
    • Twice a day
      • 2.5 mg of prednisone
      • 400 IU of vitamin E
  • For the second week I give
    • Once a day
      • 2.5 mg of prednisone
      • 400 IU of vitamin E
      • About 1/4 piece of human vitamin B complex pill or a squirt of human B liquid vitamins
    • Every other day
      • :25 micrograms selenium
  • For the third and following weeks I give
    • Once a day
      • 2.5 mg of prednisone - less and less each day - none after third week
      • 400 IU of vitamin E
      • A piece of human vitamin B complex pill or a squirt of human liquid vitamins
    • Once a week
      • :25 micrograms selenium

Do not abruptly stop prednisone, the swelling rebounds. Decrease the dose gradually. Recovery can be slow; continue the vitamin E for several weeks at least.

You can get prednisone from a vet; just describe the problem of swelling in the brain probably due to injury. Yes Silkies' brains do stick out through a hole on the top of the skull. Print the pictures at Silkies Have a Hole in Their Head and show them to your vet.

Your vet might suggest a different anti inflammatory like Celebrex or Metacam.

You can get the vitamin E, selenium, and vitamin B complex or liquid vitamins at any pharmacy.

A Vet's Review of this Therapy

Diana Hedrick asked Janny Hermans, a poultry specialist in the Netherlands, to review this Therapy. Janny Hermans' reply is below. Janny Hermans warns about over doing the prednisone and agrees the vitamins E and B can also help. She does however address the possibility of poisoning causing the neurological problems. She suggests an antibiotic in case bacteria are the source of the poison.

Dear Diana,

I'll try to write English and I'm sure we'll understand each other. If you really found her on her back, that means she totally lost her balance. This is a severe neurological symptom and therefore I agree for a great deal with the article of Alan. I don't think your cat attacked her. Then you should see wounds on her head, if the symptoms are so bad.

It's more likely that she suffers from an intoxication of any kind. It's difficult how to react, because there are no real detoxification methods. Antibiotics are a good thing and I think your choice of amoxicillin was a right one. Amoxicillin passes the blood brain barrier and is our first choice antibiotic in Streptococcus or Staphylococcus infections in the brain. Amoxicillin also is the best antibiotic in an infection with Clostridium perfringens (a brother of the bacteria that causes botulism). These Clostridia bacteria all cause cramps or paralysis of muscles. The real problem is that these bacteria also produce toxins against which no therapy is possible.

So my therapy would be the same: Amoxicillin for a day or 7 and perhaps a little bit prednisone (I've never heard of the hole in Silkies brains, but prednisone causes no harm if you give it shortly). A little bit of vitamin E and B can help also.

I hope I helped you a bit!!

Janny Hermans Poultry veterinarian

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