Waffling on where to put Coop on Small Lot

Glorybee

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We thought we had decided what we are doing for coop placement and now we are not as sure.

We live in the city. There are houses on each side of us and three across the street. We have a double city lot, but pavement takes most of ours with a split lawn area.

Our first option is behind our house, which is somewhat of an alley. It's about 42' long and 6 ish feet wide. We have a 6x3'+ quail house we could convert for our 8 pullets nicely and put on an external nest box. Leaving it where it is now, we'd have 34' of run and could probably easily make it 4'+ wide. The ground isn't super even, so it could be a tough run build. Cant get a small tractor in to it. We'd have to bring in gravel/sand just to keep the run dry in the winter as the run can get mucky in our rainstorms. Much of this run is covered by a roof eve from the house, but it still gets muddy. We could build a gate at each end not accounted in this footage to keep stray dogs out. We have neighbors with roamers. There would be no free range space unless we come up with some movable fencing to get them up on our steep hill nearby.

Our second option is in the front. We have a huge deck and wanted to do a coop and run under it that is a non attached build to the decking. Using just part of the under deck area we have something like 17 x 12 feet plus a few extra under the stairs. We would have to build a completely new coop (pallets) and would do a simple raised coop like 4x8, high enough to give birds room to roam under it but low enough to not hit the 6.5" under decking. This is ideal in that water is right there and we have a compost pile outside of the coop that we could utilize with movable fencing if we ever get some. This is not ideal in that we have a tall deck and everyone can see everything under it. We have no privacy lattice yet to shield neighbors views. Closest is over 20 feet away minimum to the left of us. Stray dogs could bother them at the fence line.

Our city ordinances don't specify that chickens must be in the back yard. We just need to be sure that there are no noticeable odors at the property line and no roosters or peafowl. Without pictures, what do you all think would be best?
 
Our city ordinances don't specify that chickens must be in the back yard. We just need to be sure that there are no noticeable odors at the property line and no roosters or peafowl. Without pictures, what do you all think would be best?

So no setback from property line or buildings? That's pretty nice, gives you more leeway.

My main concern with site 1 is you mention drainage issues with the location, and also it's very narrow (which makes it hard to work in). Site 2 sounds better to me as the deck should work a bit like a roof and the site is more square, as long as you can tolerate having the chickens right up against the house (in terms of possible noise, smell, rodents).
 
I would not put anything in the front or underneath your deck where people hang out. Chicken runs can get quite smelly especially in the rain and they attract tons of rodents. The further from your house the better.
 
Since I’ve never seen your house or your property and I dont know your neighbors and I won’t be the one to clean your coop or slog through the wet muck, I will now expound on exactly where you should put your coop!

The deck worries me because of visibility to neighbors and access to sunlight. I’m picturing a 2 story or tall deck situation without much light. I don’t think that’s ideal. I like alley way coops since the existing walls can help secure against predators or be attachments for predator proofing material. You’d prob have to dig into the ground and bury hardware cloth all the way around a coop in the front.
 
Just adding that, as mentioned quite humorously by TK421, we don't know exactly what's going on - keep in mind that hens lay according to the sunlight they receive. If they don't get much sunlight, they don't lay much.
 
We thought we had decided what we are doing for coop placement and now we are not as sure.

We live in the city. There are houses on each side of us and three across the street. We have a double city lot, but pavement takes most of ours with a split lawn area.
Our first option is behind our house, which is somewhat of an alley.
Our second option is in the front.
Without pictures, what do you all think would be best?

Where are you? Is it hot or cold or sunny or snowy?
 
We are just inland on the West Coast. We get super hot summers with fog now and then and wet winters. There's a lot of light under the front deck location for the front half of that run. It would be much less noticeable in the back location, but there is less light. We hoped to put some clear plastic roofing over some of the runs just to help keep things dry. We figure we will have to dig lots of hardware cloth in.
 
If you could post photos of the possible sites you're considering it would probably help a lot. I'm personally not big on lots of sunlight in the run area... you don't want it in the shadows 24/7, but dappled shade is usually more valuable than direct sunlight, especially if it gets hotter in your area (anything over 90 degrees).

I've dealt with a mucky, sticky run before, and it's not something I want to mess with again. How bad is the drainage in the alley location and is there any way to put in drainage in the area, if you decide to go with that? You could try doing really deep litter to see if that helps, but no form of litter/bedding is going to help if the water there cannot drain off.
 
I'm so thankful for everyones advice here. I snapped a couple photos. Here is the area in the back. Our sun comes from the front. We are replacing our roof so please excuse the mess.
 

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Here's the front. Two to three post sections wide. Sun hits the front 5 feet or so.
 

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